I appreciate all the info guys, thanks
Old Flies, those are fine looking pics and VERY close to what Im talking about. This is a link to some flies I saw posted on the classic streamer site that are exactly what Im talking about. Ive been shooting for a long time, never on a high level mind you, but I know some tricks and Im not a beginner. However, I CANNOT figure out how to get these types of jet black backgrounds.
Again, I appreciate the info, if anyone else has some secrets and wants to share them Im sure we'd all appreciate it. Dave