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zug buggin

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  1. I using a very fuzzy memory but I think the Hendrickson sheads it shuck on the bottom then swims to the surface unlike most mayflies which swim to the surface then shead the nymph shuck http://www.troutnut.com/hatch/5/Mayfly-Ephemerellidae-Hendricksons-Sulphurs-PMDs-BWOs
  2. There is a road that runs from Hwy 411 all the way to the Powerhouse goes right thru Reliance it stays along side of the river for 80% of the way. In the middle section here are roads on both sides of the river for most of the way. There is no secret access its all open to the public that is the trout water above Hwy 411. Watch the generation times once the water comes up it is not wadable so DON"T get caught in the river bed when the water rises. Fishing during 0 generation can be diffucult as the fish are spooky and holding in the deeper holes, I recomend nymph with small or midge droppers, or dry /midge droppers on long small tippets I haven't been above the Powerhouse this year, its good at times but too warm now. The best fishing is 2 generators which is high water and throw streamers or double nymph rigs but you've got to have access to a boat which means a guide and $ If your interested in that shoot me a PM I give you some names, North of the Hiwassee is the Tellico River, desent sized water at the bottom end of the trout section, gets smaller the farther upstream you go, Very decent shot at Brookies in the upper North River and Bald rivers (both tributaries to the Tellico River)
  3. There is a road that runs from Hwy 411 all the way to the Powerhouse goes right thru Reliance it stays along side of the river for 80% of the way. In the middle section here are roads on both sides of the river for most of the way. There is no secret access its all open to the public that is the trout water above Hwy 411. Watch the generation times once the water comes up it is not wadable so DON"T get caught in the river bed when the water rises. Fishing during 0 generation can be diffucult as the fish are spooky and holding in the deeper holes, I recomend nymph with small or midge droppers, or dry /midge droppers on long small tippets I haven't been above the Powerhouse this year, its good at times but too warm now.
  4. I love Midge fishing and Brassies are my favorite, I tie them in #20 and #22 and I like to use black or brown ostrich instead of peacock to get a more leggy look, also like the glass bead heads!! I'll have to try coating my wire with polish to stop the tarnish.. Great Idea shown is #22 brown wire Brassie
  5. Egg Nymph Emerger Dun With many different species of fish in my local waters, some sort of egg is usually present most of the year. Out of all the Golden Stone nymphs I have seen in the rivers I fish, not once have I found one with a Golden Bead attatched to it's head. By your logic, I suppose using beads on our flys is a "crutch". You know, for lazy fishermen that cant tye well enough to imitate a particular species? Or the bead is for weight. You know for lazy fishermen that wont learn how to get a drag free drift? They can just add a bead and lead. Rubber legs on a pattern? Dont get me wrong. I use beads, lead, rubber legs, and I also use eggs. You know, I like being lazy. Yes I understand, that much of the year that eggs will be present but are they the size of Salmon eggs, are they bright florescent pink, are the multi colored like clown eggs. Also a trout egg (not that trout are the only species in the water but in Georgia we have very limited cold water for trout and trout will compose a high percentage of the total fish in that body of water) isn't much bigger than a 3/16" brass bead. I too use beads, lead and rubber leggs. My comments come more from locals who refuse to learn what a Pheasnat Tail nymph is and beat the drums for bright pink San Juan Worms, Clown eggs, and fish our Delayed Harvest (heavily stocked winter C & R only fishing areas) I frequently see them in $400 Simms Waders, $700 Sage fly rods and what do they do wade out and tie on a clown egg maybe they catch a few stockers maybe they don't but then most will complain about catching 10" freshly stocked fish and want to know where the bigger fish are. If your interested in what I'm talking about get to NGTO which is a Georgia Fly Fishing site. On there they are many very knowledgeable fisherman and good conversations about trout/flies/presentation, but look for the threads about Eggs, San Juan Worms, Junk Food Flies and what you will find is a group that uses this fly as a crutch because the don't understand much about available trout food.
  6. i plan on using egg flies on stocked brook trout in the spring, but in the fall i use eggs for spawning salmon, steelhead, and brown trout After further thought I think I am judging you unfairly by practices that are going on here in Georgia which might not have anything to do with your area.
  7. I know in some parts of the country egg patterns are quite legitimate due to spawns but here in Georgia they are only used by fly fisherman who don't know how to fly fish and are too lazy to learn anything about entomology. They are nothing more than a crutch used to catch freshly stocked fish. I would rather __________ (insert anything bad and painful here) than ever tye or fish a egg pattern. Having said that I only mean it in my area of the country, if you are fishing a spawn then its matching the hatch (or in this case a natural food source)
  8. I got my 2012 J Stockard catalog today. Its looks to have more pictures of product than last year and seems to have more selection (maybe I'm just excited). This catalog cost me hundreds of dollars last year and I'm sure it will again. I know I can see this anytime online but I'm old fashioned I like having the paper and print in my hands. MAN ITS LIKE THE SEARS CHRISTMAS CATALOG when I was a kid.
  9. While searching several on line fly tying material sites, I came across these Golden Stone Fly head/thorax add ons also a couple of others. I'm some what of a traditionalist but I do use synthetics like, rubber legs, thin skin, flash and most anything else that looks buggy but this to me is crossing a personal line. What is to stop us from buying a #14 Sulpher nymph and slipping it on a bare hook like a rubber worm and calling it fly fishing?? I realize this is a personal thing and some people will do what ever it takes to catch fish but to me this is just wrong......or is it the future of fly fishing?
  10. Foam Yellow Sally no hackle Hook: Std dry fly #12 to #16 Thread: yellow 6/0 Body: 1mm yellow foam trimmed about match stick wide wing: yellow dyed deer body hair Trim 1mm yellow foam to about the width of a match stick, tye in above the bend reverse so the "match stick is pointing off the back of the hook. Pull forward and stretching it slightly. Tye in slightly further back so the wing can be tied to thread wrap not foam. Tye in wing and trim head finish with SHAN Its a great pattern for Brookies and wild rainbows at higher elevation, being hackless it keeps the hook in the water so the aggressive strikes don't knock the fly in the air. It also can be floated thru small riffles
  11. Sweet. Thanks for the feedback. I spend most of time, especially now that the weather is cooler, chasing Brookies up in the mountains. I'll have to try this out. I use yellow foam and dyed yellow deer body hair to make a "Yellow Sally" version of my foam Elk Hair Caddis for the North Georgia Brookies. I have had good luck with that pattern One cool thing about this pattern is it never floats upside down and can be drifted through small riffles.
  12. I was doing a mental calculation on how much money I have invested in fly tying. Including the vise I estimate I have almost $3000 dollars tied up in material and tools. I love tying dearlybut my buying of materials has gotten out of hand. I guess the good thing is I one of most everything offered for fly tying. I'm just wondering what kind of investments others have in fly tying??
  13. I used the desk form my kids old bunkbed combo, I mounted a light over the working area, I'm still using plastic storage containers for most materials having them seperated by type
  14. I'm not sure of what size foam I have, very small though, I use it to tie a free floating Elk Hair Caddis. I tie and trim it on both ends down the hook shank then add the Elk hair wing and use no hackle. It floats like a cork and the hook is under the surface of the water so I feel I get better hook ups especially on small mountain Brookies and Rainbows. They hit so explosively to be 6" long and sometimes knock my standard fly into the air, seldom happens with the caddis tyed in this fashion.
  15. I'm with Day5 on this one, the neck feathers look just like claws right off the neck.
  16. I'm working on a small trico nymph variant trying to use a #16 brown glass bead and need a little extra length in the shank, overall it kinda looks like a #20 gold rid hares ear with a brown bead head, it picks out real leggy also.
  17. I'm looking for a online website where I can find a 3xlong straight nymph hook in size #20. I found #18's on several sites, also does anyone know of a supplier of bleached undyed pheasant tail, I can't seam to find it anywhere.
  18. I'm putting together a BWO Box with BWO nymphs, emergers, and Drys. I'm looking for suggestions for a couple of patterns of patterns for each stage, Nymph, Emerger, Dry. I'm looking to tye sizes #18 to #22
  19. Looks like you are off to good start, you'll come across small problems (like the wire ribs being too loose) and you'll learn from them. My only suggestion is don't switch from fly pattern to fly pattern tye at least a 1/2 dozen of each (prefer 1 dozen of each pattern) that way you will be proficient at each pattern when you finish the dozen. Also learn to tie what you fish for me it was nymphs Pheasant Tails, GR Hare's Ear, Prince Nymphs, Brassies & Zebras, Woolly Buggers, soft hackles. This way you get usable flies that are productive and the skills transfer to other flies as you expand the patterns you like.
  20. Spending the rainy Christmas Holidays tying Soft hackles and ran out of usable Partridge. I'm sub'ing in Grizzly Hen hackle but getting a much different look, Not sure if its for the good or bad but the fibers on the hen hackle are much finer than the Partridge also getting a "badger" effect where the hackle is darker closer to the hook and lighter at the tips. The overall look is a much more delicate look to the fly. Anybody have any comments or ideas about this hackle?
  21. I'm not much of a streamer fisherman, both of these fish were caught on a #6 Prince Nymph tied on a 3x long hook with 1 1/2" long rubber legs tied in x style. I have read that trout can't tell size with in 25% (not sure I believe that) including the antenna and tail this fly is over 2" long. We fish it as a "anchor Fly" with lots of lead wrap 30 turns of .030 lead wrapped from mid point of the fly's abdomen to the head then doubling back on its self to give a thick meaty thorax. We then tie on a dropper a #14 to #18 Pheasant tail or fly of the day. The idea was to get the dropper fly deep quickly as we are fishing fast water over holes. We have found that we catch just as many fish on the Anchor fly as we do on the dropper fly with the occasional larger fish almost always coming on the anchor fly. As several of you have pointed out rivers where large fish take small flies I know of rivers like that also the Clinch River in Tennessee is one that comes to mind. This will not work on all rivers but it has worked on the Chattahochee, Hiwassee, Toccoa, Nanathala, South Holston, and Cumberland rivers.
  22. I'm know streamers are the preferred choice for big trout, but I'm talking about a nymphing stragety and size choice
  23. I would tend to agree but the smaller lighter dropper is only 12" to 18" away, I have tried this with the same pattern in a smaller size Anchor #6 dropper #14 obviously there isn't near the amount of weight in the smaller fly but the results were similar to what I previous stated.
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