flyfishing99

Thanks I have been playing with the manual mode on my D3000

Nice Tie!!!!

This book dealing solely with Hair Hackle Techniques was published in 2001 and explains that the making and use of hair hackle is very old.

Hair-Hackle Tying Techniques & Fly Patterns, by Gordon Mackenzie

http://www.amatobooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc...;Category_Code=

Thanks. Do you happen to know a site that shows photos of the technique on dry flies?

Would appreciate it

By "my method" I assume you mean "my attempt" because the technique has been around for some time (I've no idea who first used it).

 

Nice tie. I'm curious why you think you should bother with this on smaller flies. Either hackle or a comparadun-style wing would work just as well, IMHO (and in the Comparadun's case, perhaps even better). On larger patterns, I can see where this method might be more useful, but I only rarely tie dries larger than #14, so it has not been an approached I've ever explored.

 

 

Hadn't seen it elsewhere. Where might I see others??

 

The reason I think it is worthwhile is because you can adjust such "made" hackle any size by just placing the deer hair "shorter" in the dubbing loop. If you are tying while on a fishing trip you don't need to take a number of sized hackle with you.

I do like the comparaduns as well. Try these for variety!!!!

This is a photo by Hans Weilenmann. It shows one of these first hackled with spun deer hair and then with spun cdc fibers. I dressed it sort of swept back.

By "my method" I assume you mean "my attempt" because the technique has been around for some time (I've no idea who first used it).

 

Nice tie. I'm curious why you think you should bother with this on smaller flies. Either hackle or a comparadun-style wing would work just as well, IMHO (and in the Comparadun's case, perhaps even better). On larger patterns, I can see where this method might be more useful, but I only rarely tie dries larger than #14, so it has not been an approached I've ever explored.

Hadn't seen it elsewhere. Where might I see others??

The reason I think it is worthwhile is because you can adjust such "made" hackle any size by just placing the deer hair "shorter" in the dubbing loop. If you are tying while on a fishing trip you don't need to take a number of sized hackle with you.

I do like the comparaduns as well. Try these for variety!!!!

Hi,

I was told that I only use this forum to spam about my blogspot, but that really isn't the case.

Wonder what you think of my method of spinning deer hair to form a hackle. This fly, if I get a photo up, is to imitate an emerged flav. Also trying to post a photo of it floating in a tupperware dish. Note the change in color of the dubbing once wet. Granted, the color on my pictures is not 100% due to lighting, but it is worth remembering that wet dubbing tends to "darken" when wet.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks

Hi all;

 

I'm confused, what advantage does the ball mount give, cool looking vise either way.

 

Wayneb

With the shape of the stem, you can move your fly in many directions for inspection/trimming as the stem rotates on the ball at the base like a floor shiftnin avcar or truck.

I for one enjoyed your post on the Xuron vice.........I still have my original Thompson "A" vice I got back in the mid-late 70's.......After reading your post I think i will have to get one......from the description on the link you gave though, I don't understand the difference between the two models.......to me, they look identical in the pictures.......any insight on that? As far as the cretin posting on your blog....don't let him get to you.....

 

Mike

I had both and liked the standard better. More stable. The deluxe has Knurled knob to hold the stem v a wing nut

The deluxe had some adjustment or something which, on mine led to movement

The other guys who responded may remember better than I.

Short of the rotary function, they were very very good

Indeed. Very few materials we use in our tying have actual buoyancy, and very few of our dry fly patterns have a specific weight < H2O. 'Floatability' keeps them in the film.

 

Cheers,

Hans W

Hans,

This is Byron Haugh. Very nice fly!

Hi Byron,

 

Unfortunately this happens from time to time. One of the drawbacks of the internet, the "anonymous" people who feel the need to ridicule or strike out to make themselves feel better I guess.

 

I've been doing business on the internet for about 10yrs now and I've come across some really weird things.

 

My advise is not to let it get to you. Chalk it up to just one of those things your going to see online no matter where you go. As you say the majority of the people who you may deal with online are good people like here on FTF.

 

Mike

Thanks Mike,

I believe you are correct

Sorry, a typo. Title should read "Spammer"

Hi,

I have fairly recently been participating in this forum as well as flyanglers.com. I am retired now, so I have time to devote to my passion of fly fishing and fly tying. I have even started my own blog at flyfishing99.blogspot.com

This morning, on my blog there was an anonymous comment which said that I was spamming sites with my crap and that I should crawl back under my rock. This ugly comment may have come because I posted the same post about the old Xuron vise being made again on both of the mentioned forums.

Previously, a fellow by the name "Big E" had responded to a post of mine about a new vise I bought with a picture of a can of spam.

Luckily, these two crude comments seem to be the exception to the rule and I find most folks at these two forums to be educated and civil.

One of my personal "vices" is my collecting of fly tying vises. I really enjoy tying on quality vises of all types. One of my personal favorites from the past is the Xuron vise. I was excited to see that someone was still making them, so I made the same post about that on both forums hoping younger tiers could be aware of an old vise system which I think is quite unique.

I often wonder what may have gone so wrong in someone's life that they revert to being a bully and try that tactic on others. One of the things that has made me love fly fishing so much is that the vast majority of fly fishers are really nice, friendly, and helpful people. It is really disappointing to find one like the one who made such a comment on my blog. Obviously, from the content of his comment he is among the otherwise nice folks who post and view on these forums.

Thank you,

Not anonymous (Byron Haugh) I can be reached at [email protected]

There are Bonefish all over the Pacific but I'm not sure Hawaii has the flats where Bones like to feed. Hawaii is volcanic with steep drop offs and lots of reefs. We used to have a Naval officer on the Forum in Hawaii but I think he's not there anymore.

Fishing for bonefish here in Hawaii is quickly growing as a sport. I live on the island of Kauai and there is some here. Most of it occurs in Oahu where the fly shop Nervous Waters is located.

The vise has a simple jaw system that never wears out. The jaws close with a screw. The vise holds any size hook. There are no rubber bands, nylon bushings or other parts that wear out. It didn't cost between 150 and 350 dollars.

 

 

I took these photos at the Catskill Fly Fishing Museum of the Darbee's tying desks.

 

 

 

Thanks for the pictures!!! Real fly tying history. I had the pedestal base and the C clamp models. Still have the pedestal base one some place.

Talked to the boss and he said that there's an 80% chance I'll be going to Oahu for two months for work.

 

I should start tying now but haven't got a clue what are good local bonefish flies.

 

Anyone got the inside scoop on flies, colors, etc....pics would be awesome.

 

Thanks,

Eric

There is one fly shop in the islands here. It is Nervous Waters in Honolulu. My strong suggestion would be to get a guide for your first attempt. The trade winds over here can be problematic

Yes I was spoiled. My grandfather fished with him. Elsie gave me tying lessons. Lived in the area. I bought most of my stuff there. My fish real vice was a Thompson Short B. Elsie gave me a lot. I still have some feathers that came from them. I have have a couple of books from them with their library plates. Every fly I got from them, I used.

You're a lucky guy. Did you know the Dette's???????

The first vise was manufactured by Thomas, it was the vise that Harry and Elsie Darby tied on. Thomas was bought out Xuron then the folks on Savanna bought the rights the vise.

 

Oh I do tie on one of the first models and have the second model also.

About 15 years ago, I tracked down the owner of Xuron. This must have been before Savanah. I considered trying to buy the rights to mike them again. Guess someone else actually did it.

I have two of the originals, one with the material clip. They were given to me by Harry Darbee. I find them better than my Renzetti for many things. These are clamp types.

Yes, I liked the jaw tightening mechanism. They even thought to put several places to screw in the tightening "bar" so it wouldn't get in the way

You knew Darbee?!! Did he give you any of his necks??

It appears that the old Xuron vise is still available. I owned one many years ago

Anyone else tie on the old Xuron? The stem swiveled on the base like the old floor shifts on cars

This is the web site. It was the first major improvement to fly vise design since the Thompson A

http://www.stsimonsoutfitters.com/Xuron-Vise_c_17.html

Hi,

Couple shots of my PMD.

Top picture is my upside-down paraloop; next photo is my standard traditional hackled dry pmd

Perhaps can see better at my blog: flyfishing99.blogspot.com

Comments appreciated.

Thanks,

Byron

I haven't had great luck using standard PMD patterns on the Henry's Fork. Part of the reason is that there is usually a compound hatch going on. Part of the problem is that the water is so slick, the trout have the advantage.

I'm preparing already for next summer's trip there. I intend to have a bunch of these in sizes 16 and 18 ready to go.

It is so easy to load the thread. If you look closely, you will see there is a very short "throat" at the top.

Beats sucking the thread up a long tube or using a threading device.

flyfishing99.blogspot.com

Anyone tie this style of dry fly? This is a view from the bottom of the fly. You tie a separate hackle around each divided wing. The result is that the hackle comes out at a 45 degree angle from the body on each side. This is more like the real insect whose legs go out to the side - not directly underneath the body. In addition, this fly will ALWAYS land upright on the water.

Better photos of this and other styles on my blogsite:

flyfishing99.blogspot.com

Thanks for looking.

Let me know what you think