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Wow... thanks for the kind compliments everyone. Considering this is a forum dedicated to fly tying its very encouraging. If these flies are worthy of being in something other then this beginners section the mods can feel free to move them if they feel it worth while to do so.
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The last time I went up it was still really high, but I still caught 2 fish the first day and 3 the second by fishing the soft water along the edges. It was lots of work though. However a good friend of mine who is a guide up there that I am fortunate to fish with several times a year tells me its really been good the last 3 weeks.
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I don't get to this forum as often as I'd like, mostly because I spend a lot of time on another forum and I'm busy caring caring for a terminally parent. So I'm glad that this year I decided to take up fly tying again since I don't get out fishing as much this year as usual. I did get to go fish the Truckee River not long ago with a friend who is a guide up there and after spending a lot of time seining to see what was on the menu when I got home I decided I was going to attempt to design a Golden Stonefly Imitation since none the the ones I found seemed to make the naturals very well. Tom's Gold Nugget Stonefly... Hook: AFF 200R #6 Head: Black Brass Bead, Under Body: .025 Lead Free Round Wire to 3/4 point on hook. .030 or .030 would be a better choice IMO, but I'm out of both. Abdomen & Thorax : The Fly Tyer's Dungeon Mr. Peacock Dubbing in Peacock Gold. Rib: Large Brown Vinyl Rib flat side up. Tail: Brown Goose Biot. Wing Case: Spirit River Mottled Nymph Skin in Golden Stone/Clear. Legs and Antennae: Fly Tyer's Dungeon Baby Legs in Caddis Tan with brown permanent marker. Then today I had to cancel another trip to the Truckee River so I decided to design another fly. Tom's Poxiback Kamikazi... Hook: AFF 3761 size 14 Head: 1/8" Gold Bead Under Body: Black 8/0 Uni-Thread, .015 Lead Free Round wire (optional). Abdomen: Fly Tyer's Dungeon (FTD) Mr. Peacock Dubbing in Peacock Wing Case: Black Thin Skin with pearl mylar tinsel and covered with Clear Cure Goo (5 Minute Epoxy would be perfect also). Flashabou is perfect for the tinsel. I used FTD HTO Flash, because its exactly the same think as Flashabou only much cheaper. Thorax: Ringneck Pheasant Tail fibers Rib: Small Copper Wire Tail: Ringneck Pheasant Tail Fibers Legs: Gold Goose Biots pointed downward So what do you all think?
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Best Bead Colors For Trout Nymphs & Sizes
TheFlyBum replied to TheFlyBum's topic in Beginner's Corner
Rob, sorry I didn't realize your quote was included above. I do realize that you were referring to color. In the fishing situation I described above I have been using tungsten beads with led or led substitute wrapped in the thorax area also as I've wanted a LOT of weight. So my question is do you all think that I could get by in the fishing scenerio above with brass beads instead of tungsten. -
Best Bead Colors For Trout Nymphs & Sizes
TheFlyBum replied to TheFlyBum's topic in Beginner's Corner
Rob pretty much covered it, but if you need a place to get them really cheap then here's this place: http://www.wholesaleflycompany.com/ Rob and Bluegill576, Thank you for the replies. I have been purchasing tungsten beads to get the nymphs down quickly when tight line nymphing and when fish small deep holes in high water situations like we are having now in Northern CA. I've never used brass, because when I pick up packages of similar size beads tungsten is feels considerably heavier. One of my favorite rivers is lined willows many of which are now in deep water and the flows in most places cannot be waded yet, because the river is around 5500 cfs. So one of the tactics I've been using successfully is to find places I can walk into between willows and fish sections where I may only have 10' sometimes less of deep slow water so the nymphs need to get down quickly. Along with the tunsten beads in most cases I also wrap the hook with led or led substitute. In the situation described above do you all think brass beads in this situtation would have enough weight as Bluegill mentioned one of the reasons I'm trying to minimize the number of beads I purchase is the price of tungsten beads. -
I know the old saying that there is no such thing as a stupid question. However, feel like I should be able to find the answer by searching, but I have and I haven't found it here or anywhere on the web. What are the best colors tungsten beads or perhaps the better question is besides gold what are the must have colors? Also so that I do not buy unnecessary sizes what are the best sizes to buy for hook sizes 4-22 or do you really need all the sizes that can be used for each size bead for some reason? Are there say five or six sizes that would cover all those hook sizes.
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Thank you everyone for all the replies. I'm with you...but in order to relax and have fun though I do work on consistency, form and proportions, I try not to focus on making works of art, but simply too improve with each fly I tie. I have a tendency toward perfectionism and this is my way of not getting caught in that trap. I'm making a conscious choice to be satisfied with each fly I tie as long as I know I did my best. Plus since I'm new this way I don't get so frustrated by taking 40 minutes to tie one fly. Yes am somewhat an artist type, but if my flies never look as good as Charlie Craven's, Mike Mercer's, or Hogan Brown's I will still be happy if they consistently catch fish.
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When I first try a pattern that is new to me I do not typically change anything from the original, but in this case though I've made a couple with peacock herl and didn't have any difficulty with for some reason I just wanted to tie it with some Fly Tiers Dungeon Peacock dubbing. Do you all think this will have any negative effect on how well it fishes? Since starting tying several months ago I decided that I would tie flies to catch fish not to catch fisherman. Works of art that are pleasing to my eye is not my goal in fly tying, but catching fish. I've also normally a person that lives by the motto if it ain't broke don't fix it, but for some reason with the Copper John I want to make this change even though I've fished them for years, because they catch fish and all of them had peacock herl in the past. I read one thread here where the person said they were using ice dubbing and not tying in legs, I thought about that myself, but finally decided to go the extra step of tying in legs also. What do you all think. Just though of one more thing I've been tying these on TMC 5262 hooks, but only have them down to a sz. 14 and want to tie some in sz 16 & 18 would a 3761 be a good alternative or would a 2302 be better.
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Hi everyone its been a while since I've been here the truth is its, because I spend a lot of time on another forum where I've already developed a lot of friendships and even a couple fishing partners. So I hope you all don't mind my dropping in to ask this question. I renewed to fly tying; what I mean is I started quite a few years ago and ending up quitting after a single trout season. This year though I took a class through the FF club I belong to and bought a great ridiculously expensive Regal Revolution vise that I absolutely love and I've got to say that fly tying has become my second vice now. I've only been tying about 1.5 month and I'm well on my way if I haven't already tied my 100th fly. By contrast the first time I started fly tying I doubt I tied a total of 50 flies that whole trout season. I've purchased a couple of Randall Kaufman books and have been using Charlie Craven's Basic Fly Tying, but now I'm seriously considering purchasing the complete Jack Dennis Fly Tying DVD Collection I've used vhs & dvd's to learn various things over the years including how to cast with very good success. What I'd really like to do is learn to tie flies that are relevant to fishing Western trout streams. In particularly Northern California since I spend most of my fishing on the Tahoe/Truckee and Dunsmuir/Shasta area wild trout freestone streams and rivers especially the Upper Sacramento River and occasionally tail waters and spring creeks. With that in mind do you all think the above Jack Dennis DVD's are a good choice for me?
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Deal I Couldn't Pass Up on Regal Revolution
TheFlyBum replied to TheFlyBum's topic in Beginner's Corner
Thank you very much for the replies! I have to admit I'm surprised there weren't a few more. I decided to go a head and pull the trigger on the H&H Choice Saddles, but I followed a friends advice and contacted them asking them to take please take the time to sellect the best Saddles from their stock. This morning I recieved an email from the owner assuring me that he would do so personally. I can't ask any more than that! After I recieve it I will take it to my friend who has been tying for many years to see if they are the are what should be expected! If not according to H&H's guarantee I'll send them back. -
Sunday I got a deal through a friend who Manages a Fly Shop on a Regal Revolution that was just too good to pass up, I was considering a Nor Vise or a JVice, but have always like the Regal Vises also. Plus I utilized their trade in program on a couple rods that I will never use and as a result I had to pay even less cash out of pocket. I am feeling spoiled! I also purchased a bunch of tying supplies and tools. I realize that this a forum that belongs to J.Stockard and I utilize them fairly regularly for my rod building blanks and reel seats. Nevertheless I would like to ask if anyone here has experience with Hook & Hackle Choice Saddles and Capes or their Quality Half Saddles and Capes. I have heard great things about their Premium Saddles and Capes, but since I've already spent a bunch of money I would really like to try their Quality Halfs or Choice which is the next level down to save some money.
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Hi Ammon: Don't worry about deleting your comment. No need to apologize as again I was not offended. I did the same thing when I first started out on a different topic forum where everyone is not nearly as friendly as here and I really got chewed on. Hope you getting all your questions answered. -Tom _________________________________________________________ Besides the web site by the same name is anywhere online where I can see some videos on Rotary Fly Tying so that I can see what the difference is between Rotary Tying techniques used with the Nor-Vise and those used with others like Renzetti and Dyna-Kings. I've watched nearly all the Nor-vise videos and what a tyer can do with one is very impressive. I'd like to see the same what can be done with different rotary vises as I'm nearly completely sold on Nor-Vise, but I also plan on taking the advise of trying out as many vises as possible first. However, after I buy a vise over time as my skill increases I would like to take advantage of all the vises rotary capabilities.
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Hi Ammon, Please understand that that you have used this thread to ask your question doesn't bother me in the least, nevertheless I do have quite a bit of experience on internet forums and in most of them changing the subject like this is considered threadjacking. I suspect you will have a much better response to you question if you were to start a whole new thread to ask this question. Again please understand that it doesn't bother me and please don't take affense. Good luck with your return and I hope you find fly tying as rewarding as before. Respectfully, Tom
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I'm new hear I actually already posted something in beginners area. I really am a beginning fly tyer even though I started tying 22 or so years ago...but stopped not long after I started. My son and I have started Fly Fishing together several times a month over the last year so to save money I've started building rods and now we have decided to join the local Fly Fishing Club and to take their tying lessons together. We mostly fish for trout in NorCal Rivers, I haven't had much still water Fly Fishing experience, but I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as stream and river fishing. We both enjoy nymphing, though I do enjoy dry fly fishing especially during the Salmon Fly & October Caddis hatches since they often attract larger fish to the dry flies. So I thought I'd come hear to learn all I can... Starting with what vise to get, I've read several of the posts on the topic. First thing after New Years I'm going to buy a new vise, I have a Thompson now. Think I'm going to buy a Nor-Vise rather than buying something less expensive only to have to upgrade later. My only concern is that since they are the most popular I wonder how that will work with taking the clubs tying classes since from what I have read and the videos I watched it seems some of the tying methods used with the Nor-vise are different then with the other more popular vises. I'm pretty good at learning from videos, but my son doesn't have the self-discipline for it. Matter of fact I learned most of my fly fishing from videos and have done pretty well as this year I took my son to a casting class and decided to join him and instructor said I did well enough I didn't need that beginning class. We hired a guide for a first trip out together which helped us both, but especially my son. He hooked and nearly landed a 14' wild trout on his second drift while learning to High Stick within minutes of starting on the first day. I think I'll hire a guide at least twice again this year. Once I think I'll go by myself so that the guide can focus more on me as that first trip he spent most of the time working with my son one on one which was good thing. I tried watching the videos in the Beginner Thread and I got an error back saying something about a server issue. Well glad to have found this forum!