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  1. Hi Leif You wrote: "this octopus i have done is not the same material at al that you have in yours,if it was i hade write it and get your cred for the octopus.....this one is not glas blowing technique and no epoxy at al in my octopus..... im sorry if you feel that the octopus is your own pattern....." Just a question: how did you know that I used glas blowing technique and epoxy for tying such fly? Just for precision, I gave this information height month ago on my site, in Italian and French journals...without reading them how could you know that? Your octopus is well tied, no question about that but some doubt on your inspiration source. Despite that, I prefer to stop the story here and I wish you success and fun in fly tying. I hope that one of these days we will meet. I always try to see what is the best in each of us. No doubt you are a very good tyer. Have a nice day. Cheers. Fario
  2. Hi, Thanks all of you for your prompt interractive discussion and support. To be a realistic tier mean that you have to copy the nature. But it's not enought and if you really want to be a motivated passionated ardent tier for fun, you have to give more than realistic shape to your flies but attitude. I could understand that tying logics when making realistic or hyperrealistic flies meet join to almost identical shapes. But when you realistic tied since years you can evaluate if your model are copied or not by the position of the hook (throught the abdomen), of the components (tentacle, eyes, respiratory syphon...) and by the proportion of these components. The on body drawing are identical of mine on the octopus body copy etc. etc. I understand that octopus imitation look identical from far but if you have any imagination you can tie them with different shape, material. To be copied at least it's an honor but not for commercial intention. I remember when I get prize to Mustad scandinavian competition with beetle, lucane, bat, marine turtle, prey mantis, euphausiid, cephalopods, vertical and horizontal streamers etc. Months after people were tying copies of such flies under their own name and participated to competition forum etc. I wasn't very happy because despiting copying nature, I spent a lot of time researching new material, developping techniques, tying with attitude for behaviourist school, making nice pictures of such flies, writing papers in UK, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, French revues, sharing with people and at the end you discover the copy of your flies under other names in forum, competition, journal...You can see actually copies of my marine turtle on Italian site for commercial... I tell you I am under stress sometime. If I tie flies, it's only for fun not for commercial and surely not for stress. It's only to share, not to be copied for media and commercial. If I put a site online, it's to share and believe me or not, as I am not a computer man, it's take me time to realize it within all pictures and texts. Please respect my work and the work of all tiers. Be polite, ask authorization for exact copy or give reference or at least be in contact and discuss like some people did on this forum for octopus. All tiers know that the most important think is not techniques but the ability of creating. Essential is to share and I am quite happy that because of this sterile story, we are in contact and we exchange idea. Interractive communication is quite important in the fly tying world. More we will know each others, more we will respect each others. Sorry for my terrible English. Have a nice day everybody.
  3. Hi Leif, Thanks for your prompt answer. Sorry to be in disacord with you. If I look well at your pattern I can see that the hook is in identical position as mine, + the body drawing, + the tentacle, + the eyes position, + the respiratory syphon. Except the color you had, I didn't see anychange from the pattern I create more than two years ago and which won Mustad Scandinavian fly tying competition in Norway. Of course every tiers one days copy the other. But I tell you I never saw this pattern before I created it and since I put my site on line six months ago I see by hazard two patterns of such octopus. You have an other one on the same forum by an other guy who sign also it. It seems to be funy that since I created it two people had excatly the same idea with the almost identical material on the same imitation with the same position of each of it's components. Sorry for that but it's hard to believe it. Despite this I recognize that you are a good tier when I see what you can imitate. Have fun and be ready for next patterns. We wait and see for your next creation. Regards Fario.
  4. Hi, I was surprised to discover again this octopus imitation for the second time on that forum. I create this fly two years ago and she get the first price in international and european flytying competition. You can discover it in my site "H2O" at http://teyssie.free.fr/ at the chapter art'ificial F:\SITE\Artificielles\Artificielle.htm In that chapter you will also see realistic flies imitating crustacean, jelly fish, bat, fishes, aquatic and terrestrial insects. I think that when people want to show imitation as creation, the minimum of politess will be to name the signature of the original fly. Sorry for my poor English and good surf on my site. Your comments will be very welcome. JL TeyssiƩ.
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    Hi, I was surprised to discover octopus imitation under an other name than mine. I create this fly two years ago and she get the firts price in international and european flytying competition. You can discover it in my site "H2O" http://teyssie.free.fr/ at the chapter art'ificial F:\SITE\Artificielles\Artificielle.htm In that chapter you will also see realistic flies imitating crustacean, jelly fish, bat, fishes, aquatic and terrestrial insect. I think that when people want to show creation of the other, the minimum of politess will be to name the signature of the original fly. Sorry for my poor English and good surf on my site. Your comments will be very welcome. JL TeyssiƩ.
  6. Good morning, Thanks for your comment on the http://teyssie.free.fr/ site and realistic flies in aquatic insect and terrestrial chapter. Sorry for my poor English. If you want to discover more realistic flies, you could surf on F:\SITE\Artificielles\Artificielle.htm I tie fish, crustacean, jelly fish, marine turtle, bat, You will see the octopus imitation I tied two years ago and who win French, Norway, Irish, UK, Italian and international tying competition. I am quite surprised to see one of it imitation propose on that site under an other name. I put on line my "H2O" site at http://teyssie.free.fr/ since height months showing environmental approach of aquatic ecosystem management, bio art and flytying within realistic patterns. I really enjoy to have your comments on such work and to get interractive exchange with US tiers. Best regards. JL Teyssie
  7. Good morning, Thanks for your comment on the http://teyssie.free.fr/ site and realistic flies in aquatic insect and terrestrial chapter. Sorry for my poor English. If you want to discover more realistic flies, you could surf on F:\SITE\Artificielles\Artificielle.htm I tie fish, crustacean, jelly fish, marine turtle, bat, You will see the octopus imitation I tied two years ago and who win French, Norway, Irish, UK, Italian and international tying competition. I am quite surprised to see one of it imitation propose on that site under an other name. I put on line my "H2O" site at http://teyssie.free.fr/ since height months showing environmental approach of aquatic ecosystem management, bio art and flytying within realistic patterns. I really enjoy to have your comments on such work and to get interractive exchange with US tiers. Best regards. JL Teyssie
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