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ted patlen

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  1. i have recieved all the beauties last week, very happy to be invited. sorry i couldn't reply sooner but it seems everytime i try to use this i keep getting refused and have to change the blasted code name :wallbash:over and over... ted
  2. thanks for the nice comments, glad you like them, looking forward to see all the flies at home.
  3. hey, it finally worked! i tried a few ties to try to get on but had trouble. very happy to be part of this. paul, i sent the flies about a week or 2 ago, get em yet? ted
  4. bob covers most of the stuff...i'd like to add a little all tyers from years past did the same thing that we are doing now...looking for the best quality materials available...truest colors, cleanest etc. some feathers you see will be great for certain applications...and useless for others...case in point, long fibered turkey tail feathers are great for long shanked streamers and salmon flies but almost useless for smaller, wets...the tips of the fibers are much finer than required for trout wet patterns (montreal, etc.)so they don't tie in properly..thus the reason for turkey wing quills, goose, duck or other fuller fibered feathers streamer necks...many of the great streamer tyers, (oatman, jennings, etc) used chinese necks, indian necks and strung saddles for their patterns because those were the best available...the genetic marvels for dry flies are USUALLY no good for streamers all feathers are useful but not for all applications so purchase appropriately.
  5. it sounds like a thread tension problem...an ..old saying...one good wrap is better than whatever enough tension should keep them from slipping...try only one wrap of thread per fiber both with the same is better...that is place the near side horn on first then with the same wrap place the far side...give it one or two additonal firm wraps then adjust the angle...now do the whip finish over those wraps horns can shift because they are tied in by the smallest of sections, as for the splaying...that is normally caused by a bump behind the tie in point.. possibly to many wraps of thread on the previous operation...in this case the crest,...what size thread do you use? sometimes the really fine stuff is misused... minor splaying can also be caused by using a right horn on the left side etc...or upside down easy to do this because your using onlt 1 fiber
  6. fine with me...meet me at the pequest ....2:45...wear your waders or next time were wrapping dead chichens onto a hook :yahoo:
  7. taking a better look at the scan...from a MUCH better computer... i can see a wide head...can tell for sure but it looks like a reversed wing ...which would set the wing at that angle. ..dave? ps any chance bringing it to newark? yo
  8. [i]how old?[/i] :hyst: congrats...you can buy ME a coffee next time you see me...dark, no sugar
  9. the jock scott is a built wing with lots of stuff on it...every tyer has a different eye so where the sword is tied in and how much is seen is your discretion...but most fo the antiques that i've seen have the sword tied in along with the white tippped turkey underwing with just a portion of it showing from under the outer sheaths don't be afraid to show more or tie in somewhere else
  10. JAMES IT SAYS ... BITS OF FEATHERS MISSING FROM THE TIPS... IT SURE LOOKS LIKE FLORICAN TO ME AND FOR A GREAT PRICE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO USE SOME OR A LOT OF IT... THERE WAS A LOT OF FLORICAN/TURKEY/PEACOCK WHATEVER WITH RAZORED OR TRIMMED EDGES USED BY THAT INDUSTRY THAT WAS ACCEPTED PRACTICE FOR HATS AND ASSESSORIES TO MAKE THEM "BALANCED" GOOD LUCK (AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SCARE YOU OFF SO I CAN GET IT)
  11. scott, try this different method also for practice...take an extra hook start the thread anywhere on the shank then tie in the ostrich by it's butt..take a few turns...you'll notice that the flues all point in one direction. (a smooth thread base is essential) un wrap then wrap in the reverse direction and the flues point in a different direction..unwrap cpmpletely then "flip" the herl over and tie in again so the side that was against the hook's shank now faces upwards...repeat the process... then unwrap and repeat the process again but tie in by the tip of the herl...a nice taper is possible when tying in by the tip , however the butt is not as strong as you'd get by tying in by the butt
  12. another great thread... fav...torrish...love that yellow through red spectrum least any of those 1860 woolly buggers spey flies
  13. i can feel the love emitting from the bayou way up here in the cold, cold northeast by the way bud, all those long fibered bucktails you get can be mailed to my house...the stripers just love the taste of southern whitetail and if you just happen to find any wood duck flank around i'll take that miserable stuff off your hands too
  14. cool find...they look like a blue dun and a cahill but that would be tooo easy how's the weather in milwaukee? yo
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