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14 hours ago, vicente said:Glen can probably do it for you, or k&g stabilizing does really good work.
These are incredibly cool materials. Had no idea such an industry existed and the craftsmanship is just great to see... Thanks for posting
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9 hours ago, SilverCreek said:Thanks guys!
BTW, here's the line to a free copy of Klausmeyer's book
https://smile.amazon.com/101-Favorite-Nymphs-Wet-Flies-ebook/dp/B00LDYF77I/ref=sr_1_1
Thank you for relaying these... many good reads listed👍
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57 minutes ago, vicente said:I haven't checked in a couple days I will today
USPS pledged that 2 dozen would be there on Thursday; however, locally, they are known to be LIARS.....
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15 hours ago, TSMcDougald said:Great work
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7 hours ago, flytire said:some history
Two wings up on this tying resource, flytire, 🦆🦆
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On 5/25/2020 at 7:06 PM, brkncly said:I'm tying a special fly for my daughter and when I it to give her, I would like it for to be a case, cube or box that can display the fly that she can set on a self. Any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.
For daughter you might go for something on the sweet and simple... But any help or suggestions She gives You should be what She Likes...
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On 5/25/2020 at 10:10 PM, Mark Knapp said:This is a trim-less waste-less synthetic fiber bait fish pattern with eyes that will not fall out.
The wet look.
Hook- 9/0 owner or other suitable streamer hook sized to suit.
Thread- white or clear mono
Eye post- 200-400 lb mono sized to suit eyes
Belly- white EP or comparable synthetic fiber
Throat red EP or comparable synthetic.
Body-white EP or comp. fiber
Wing- Black over dark gray over light gray over white EP of comp. synth. fiber.
Cheek- flashabou or comp. reflective strip.
Eye- brass, glass or comp. flat bead to suit.
Head- UV resin
This recipe solves a couple of problems I noticed while watching videos of streamers tied with synthetic fibers.
Since synthetic fibers aren't tapered like natural fibers, the fly needed to be tapered. Usually the fly is tied then the fly was tapered by trimming it from a rectangular shape into tear drop shape.
In trimming, a lot of material was wasted, it took quite a bit of time to tie the fly and trim it. Some tiers found it difficult to get the shape they wanted. The other problem I saw was difficult to keep eyes on the flies, especially where toothy critters were involved.
This recipe is fast and easy to tie, taking about the same time to tie as a bucktail. It's a nice shape, it wastes almost no material and it's durable.
Secure the hook in the vise up-side-down and tie in the eye post about 1/3 the length of the shank back from the eye of the hook Clouser style. The eye post should be long enough to melt the ends of it over the bead eyes, in this case 5/8ths of an inch long. Apply a drop of CA glue to the joint of the eye post and the hook shank to secure it.
Measure and cut the synthetic streamer fiber for the length of fly you want to make, in this case seven inches.For this fly I've separated a clump about 1 inch in diameter from the hank.
Separate 1/4 of your fiber bundle from the rest, that will be the belly, the rest will be the body of the fly. Next spread out and flatten each of the bundles to form two rectangles.
Then using long sharp scissors, cut diagonally across both rectangles from corner to corner to form four triangles, two large and two small.
You should have something that looks like this.
Flip one of the small triangles end for end, match the big ends of the small triangles and combine them you should now have three triangles that look like these. Do not combine the two clumps of body fibers, put them aside for now.
Invert the vise, trim the big end of the belly fibers and tie them in just ahead of the eye post. Measure a small clump of red fibers for length. It should be about 3/4 the length of the body of the fly.
Spread it into a rectangle like you did with the body and belly fibers. Cut the rectangle into two triangles.
Flip one of the two throat triangles and combine them. Tie them in over the belly.
Turn the fly right-side-up again, trim the big end of one of the clumps of body fibers (that we set aside a little bit ago) and tie it in on top of the shank, ahead of the eye post, on the near side of the bend of the hook. Trim the big end of the other body clump and tie it in on the far side of the bend of the hook next to the first clump. Trim the tag ends of the fibers ahead of the tie in to form a tapered head.
Measure and cut a clump of light grey fibers for the first wing, it should be about 1/2 the diameter of the body and just a little shorter than the body.
Spread, flatten and cut the clump diagonally like you did the others.
Flip one end for end and combine them.
Tie them in and trim the tag ends at an angle.
Repeat these steps again with the dark gray and the black. Each new color should be about half the diameter of, and just a little bit shorter than, the last one. Form a nice tapered head.
Next we need a lateral line (the cheeks). Tie in two or three strands of flashabou, holographic or iridescent Mylar strips on both sides of the head. They should run from the eye to the end of the tail. Whip finish the head. Remove the fly from the vise and comb out all the stray hairs. smooth the body and "marry" the fibers to form a tear drop shaped "fish".
Put the fly back in the vise and turn it on its side. Slip a disk bead, in this case a 3/8 dia. brass bead, over the eye post.
Lay a hackle guard over the eye and head of the fly to protect it and melt the monofilament with a lighter.
When the eye post is sufficiently melted remove the hackle guard and use it to squish the melted eye post down flat onto the flat bead.
It should look like this. Repeat for the eye on the other side.
Using thin UV resin cement the eyes into place. Using thick UV resin form a head and encapsulate the eyes.
It should look something like this.
Thanks, Mark.... Great fly produced and technique shown transfers to other materials and hook sizes. Wish we had more species that required 9/0 hooks, guess that is why we have “road trips.”
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4 minutes ago, Bazzer69 said:Wasn’t this tread about the CAE vise?
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5 hours ago, TSMcDougald said:Yup, practice makes perfect
Tough to beat Lefty’s originals on tying style, yours just need a fish or two to rough them up....
and I need not tell you...if ya get tired of ..practice... its okay to go thinking outside the box ... but surely you would reply...” What’s a Box?...”👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸😎😎.....
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You are making a great comeback..... fish that Coachman soon👍👍
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2 hours ago, chugbug27 said:Thanks for that, Silver Creek, super clear. I hadn't realized that 1.5x the gape was designed to get the hackle to be equal to the fly body length.
Sometimes ya ask a great question and ya get a great Answer....
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1 hour ago, Mogup said:Flat Rock native Do I understand correctly that you use a modified cheese cutting board as a platform for your J vise .
Frankly, I thought pd was talkin bout Pete’s setup... 😎
Mine doesn't rise to the ...cheeseboard... level. Just a board foot of scrap from the timber mill in town....🤐
Anyone heard from Flat Rock Native?
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I am good and hoping to return to more action on the forum in a month or two. Had to curtail all tying activity shortly after doing Vicente’s bass swap. Big life changes, mostly very Positive. 2020 fishing ended on a streak of 10 excursions where I hooked a lot of fish or a few nicer ones. More detail later🎣🎣🎣😎😎😎👍👍👍