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Mark Knapp

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  1. My wife took an elderly lady we know down to a river she loves to visit to give the lady a chance to get out. It's an all day trip so I'm watching the store today. I've moved some of the necessary stuff downstairs to the sales counter so I can tie while I watch the store. With any luck at all, I'll have 7 or 8 uninterrupted hours of fly tying. Still working on the sparkle duns. Maybe by the end of the day I'll have them down. They normally call for deer hair but I'm going to try some with caribou hair too, see how that works.
  2. What kind of backing rots these days?
  3. Bravo Mr. Several things I like about the video are; The tiers perspective. I like that you didn't edit our the loop slip of the yarn, it showed how easily you fixed it. You did the video on a fly you know and tie well instead of one you are tying for the first time or maybe the second. I didn't mind the music but I think a voice over with your personality would be better. That's one thing you can't bring to your videos that no one else can. I liked your organization. I liked the brevity of the video but a little more time wouldn't be bad. I think you should add your name and your web site to the video just in case someone didn't find the video through your web site . (Kind of like we didn't) Also if someone searched "Utah Killer Bug" they would get your video on you tube but have no idea that you had a web site or how to find more stuff by you. Thank you very much, I liked it.
  4. It sounds like it might be a guided Petroglyph trip. You could call the tour company and ask.
  5. I think it can make a difference to fish sometimes too. I was recently fishing with a friend of mine and we were both fishing exactly the same fly ( I had tied them both) from a boat for rockfish. He was using a fly he had fished the day before and it was a little dingier than the fresh one I had just tied on, not much but a little bit. When the flies are fresh they are the brightest white you can imagine. His was water stained, some of the white had probably washed out of the feathers and there was probably some rust stain in there from having spent the night with salt water on it. I was really putting him to shame by catching one fish after another and probably enjoying it a little too much. I could tell his fly wasn't quite as bright as mine but I kept quiet for just a little while. As near as we could tell our deliveries were the same, we were fishing the same depth from the same school of fish but he was only catching one to every three or four of mine. After a little bit I told him to pull up so I could tie a new fly on for him. As soon as we did that, he started to connect just as much as I did.
  6. It's not really the sex of the bird that's of concern, it's the color of the sex of the bird. I think. Most times when we buy a bird we try to get a brightly colored one to get the best looking fly. Males seem to be brighter most times. It might make a difference to a fish. At least, that's what I think.
  7. Sometimes, it's hard to tell when someone is kidding or not when you can't see their faces. I am always taking people too seriously on forums like this. Surprisingly, or maybe not, a lot of people try to use downriggers to get flies down to the deep water. When I first started fishing with my buddy Rick, with whom I developed this system, he was using a downrigger to get his flies down deep in salt water. On our first day together I was trying to share with him my definition of fly fishing that doesn't include a downrigger, he was trying to set it up and broke his fly rod. That was seven years ago and we haven't used a downrigger for fly fishing since. We do use a downrigger for conventional fishing for salmon. His boat is full of all kinds of annoying things that almost make fly fishing from it impossible. Things like rod holders, overhead rod racks, pot pullers, cleats and downrigger mounts. He's a nice guy but his boat is annoying. He and his boat are in many of my salt water fishing videos. We have a great time together.
  8. I suppose that would work for short drifts. Because of drift, (the lake is always a little windy), the fly would soon flag high in the water column without a good sinking line. Also, the use of down riggers and any extra weight breaks MY personal rules for fly fishing. When I'm fishing conventional I would use them, no problem. Only one other thing, my boats are all set up for fly fishing so I don't have anything like down rigger mounts and rod holders sticking up above the gunnels to mess up my casts. I also don't have any over-head rod holders to mess things up.
  9. Nice explanation, thanks. Now, we need to know how it changes the way the fly is presented and floats. You would think perpendicular hackle fibers would be proper but what's better? Does it matter? If it does matter, is it enough to out-way easier tying when fibers are curved back? Another thing to consider is, if I can tie an all-round better fly with the fibers curled back, will the fly fish better than if I tied a not so good fly with the fibers curled forward? Or, are we splitting hairs? If the fly floated twice as long, I guess it's worth it. Might have to do some testing.
  10. Yes, it's already been well established that I am abnormal. 😁
  11. I will do it with the same deep sinking line I make for deep sea fly fishing in the salt. Here's the system. fly + bite leader + 20 pound tippet + 30 feet of T20 sinking line + 90 feet of T17 sinking line + backing. Make my best cast toward the drift ( I will be drifting with the wind), as the boat drifts toward the fly pay out line until I think the fly is at the depth I see fish on the fish finder. A young man just caught a 20 pound lake trout on a fly in the same lake I like to fish lakers in. He was trolling it behind a canoe. The fish must have been closer to the surface than they commonly are though. I'd like to do it without trolling. In my mind, drifting is a closer match to traditional fly fishing methods than trolling is.
  12. And the bourbon? Nice bugs buddy.
  13. I tie them with the convex side forward (toward the eye) so that the barbels curve slightly toward the bend. In my mind, it's easier to wrap subsequent wraps without trapping barbels from the previous wrap if they curve to the rear.
  14. Not to talk for Landon but I'd do it for the challenge. One of the things I really want to do some time is catch a really big laker in a deep lake on a fly. Some of them will be suspended 80 feet down.
  15. Poopdeck, it occurs to me that I might just be one of the snobby elitist fly fisherman you talk about. I did say though, that I think anyone can do it. I think anyone can do what ever they want if they have the desire and work at it.
  16. You might be talking to more than just me but I'm not the guy who said it was difficult, I don't find it difficult either. I do think it's special for all the reasons I mentioned earlier. I also believe that it is more sporting to trick a fish with a fake bug than it is to catch one with a real bug. I believe it's more challenging. If you don't believe that, just compare the world records of fly caught fish with the "all tackle records". If all things were equal, the records would be equal. There is reason that fewer people fly fish than use conventional gear, why do you suppose that is? It can't just be because snobby fly fisherman have buffaloed the rest of them into believing that it's too hard to do. Why is it that most people are surprised to hear when a fly fisherman out-fishes a conventional fisherman? It can only be because it is seldom done. I have often done it but that's only because I fish a lot. If fly fishing is as easy for you as convention fishing than you are a rare individual. If you ask a hundred fisherman, you are likely going to get a hundred "No it's not"s. Anyway, it seems like we've beat this horse to death, it feels like it's time to find another one to beat for a while. It seems like the way you were treated as a kid has left a lasting impression on you. If you come up here, you will get to meet some of the nicest fly fisherman you will ever want to meet. Or, if you prefer, we can go on a float and you'll not see another one for a hundred miles of river, your choice.
  17. Yep, from the front its a 180 degree fan. Thanks
  18. Sparkle Dun This one is locally called a Blue Sparkle Dun. It has a light blue tail, gray body and tan/brown wings, tied on a size 12. It's a very popular and effective grayling fly and you can tie them pretty fast with only three components beside the thread and the hook. I'm going to tie a bunch in 12s and 14s with just subtle changes in colors.
  19. I have never said there weren't elitist fly fisherman, I just haven't bumped into that many of them. Most of my exposure to fly fisherman has been from this site and a few local guys who are very down to earth people. I see the guys on the shore as I drift by (in my blue jeans and flannel shirt) in the full Orvis get ups looking like they walked out of a catalog. I can't tell if they are snobby or not. I'm glad those guys are there, Dingell-Johnson funds got to come from somewhere. I have seen elitism in lots of different fields, pilots mostly, doctors and academia. None of it bothers me that much. I have done the technical bobber stuff with slip bobbers, lighted bobbers and lighted slip bobbers for walleyes at night and very light weight quill bobbers where the crappie hit is almost imperceptible and missed by almost all other fisherman, not even a hit really, a slight tilt or hesitation in its rhythm. It can be very technical. Entry level fly fishing can be almost as easy as entry level bobber fishing but that's not my point. My point is, fly fishing is special for all the reasons I mentioned before (I'm not going to repeat them again) All you need to fish with a worm is dirty hands. Flies are pretty, worms are not. Fly casting a fly is graceful (sometimes, but not by me so much) Tying a fly is therapeutic and cathartic and if I could think of more big words I would add them in too. No body takes pictures of their' worm hooking station. ( OK, I repeated myself a little)That's the way it is, you can't change that and I, for one, like it that way. I'm not sure these ivory towers you talk about are that high and I'm not sure that you can tear many of them down. Societies perceptions of fly fishing are pretty deeply seeded (or is it "seated?) I'm not so sure many of those perceptions are so bad. Where elitism exists, it is changing. Where were you exposed to so much elitism?
  20. Yes, I developed those things without a mentor. I had a step father that had no time for kids and no aptitude for outdoor sports. I was never given a fishing rod and was never "taken" fishing. Not complaining, just answering your question. I started catching snakes and turtles and selling them to pet stores as a teenager and bought my first fishing pole and all of my gear with money from that and a paper rout, I also cut grass. All this in Virginia Beach. I wasn't exposed to hunting until I was eighteen when I moved to Minnesota. Moved to Alaska in 1984 when I was 24, became a full time big game guide (hunting 150 days a year), professional trapper (5 months in the winter) and commercial fisherman (in the summer) at age 26.
  21. Was your father an elitist fly fisherman? This seems like it's hitting awfully close to home for you. I haven't seen any of the serious elitism that you talk about and I have started to slowly hang around TU people, mainly to donate stuff. I certainly don't think bobber fishing is as easy as fly fishing but I don't think fly fishermen are better because they fly fish. They certainly must be better fly fishermen than one who only bobber fishes. But, I have said all this before. It's time to quit repeating myself.
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