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22 minutes ago, cencalfly said:

That's one of them old-timey flies I like to tie and use. 

I like the old timey one's too.  

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Next up, a simple tie with huge room for variation in size and color:  Gartside's Sparrow

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1 minute ago, dflanagan said:

wool roving

Thanks Mr. Flanagan.  The fibers are longish and a little course, but if you tear off short pieces it ain't too bad to dub. 

Be happy to send you some in the colors I have, just pm me your address.   I have more than I'll ever use.  

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1 hour ago, niveker said:

Thanks Mr. Flanagan.  The fibers are longish and a little course, but if you tear off short pieces it ain't too bad to dub. 

Be happy to send you some in the colors I have, just pm me your address.   I have more than I'll ever use.  

Thanks for the offer but I’m sure we have some around here. My wife is the real crafter and has boxes of all kinds of stuff. 

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This is  a confidence fly for me.  Better directions can be found on jackgartside dot com and he also ties it on YouTube. I’ve also been lucky enough to watch him tie it a couple of times.  He was a true trout bum.  These are part of a set of 16 going to casting for recovery.

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Hook - size 10, 12 or 8. These are size 10 tiemco 5263 but any 2x or 3x works.

thread - I use 8/0 in black, olive, tan or orange

tail - short marabou fluffy feathers from ring neck pheasant or turkey.  I also use pine squirrel clumps. Keep tail short / hook gap to 1/3 length.

body - dubbing; above are Whitlock blends.  Spikey hares ear or squirrel, rabbit synthetic sparkley blends work well.

collar - see picture; natural or dyed pheasant rump feather.  Concave side folded back extended to end of tail and beyond.  Only one turn according to jack.  I usually do two complete turns to get good distribution of barbules.

head - aftershaft feather(s) taken from base of rump feather. This delicate feather is tied in and stroked back against the collar. I’m good with five turns and six is better. Moist fingers help.  Electric test grabbers may help but I prefer just fingers.

whip finish - try to keep the whip finished head smaller than my ties above.

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above is an olive dyed rump feather along side the aftershaft feather. Snip the rump feather right above the fluff, wax thread and tie onto hook concave side down, take a turn or two and secure with a couple wraps of thread stroking/shaping feather rearward.

This fly can be fished as a nymph or streamer.

these were tied by Gartside who passed away way too early.  All black or peacock herl body is called an “evening star”.

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I need to review this thread to see what pattern hasn’t been done.

 

next challenge:  any Carrie Stevens style trolling streamer for landlocked salmon or trout.  From Mickey Finn to grey ghost and beyond. Thanks and tight wraps.

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21 minutes ago, johnnyquahog said:

These are part of a set of 16 going to casting for recovery.

Nicely done.  

21 minutes ago, johnnyquahog said:

these were tied by Gartside who passed away way too early.  All black or peacock herl body is called an “evening star”.

With added bonus pic, very nice.  Thanks for posting those.  I did not know about the 'Evening Star'  

As his ties show, such a versatile pattern, colors, body material, size - they all work .  

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On 1/31/2023 at 9:33 PM, niveker said:

Spruce Streamer

Spruce-Fly.jpg

Hook: Herter's 423 (#8, 3xl)

Thread: 70D, black

Tail: Peacock sword

Rib: 1 strand DMC metallic thread, light gold

Body: red roving wood/peacock hurl (40/60)

Wing: India cape, ginger badger, splayed

Hackle: India cape, silver badger

Critique: The wing is way too long, should be roughly 1 1/2 x the hook shank, not 2x.  I should have continued the rib through the peacock hurl for durability.  And before taking the photo, I should have let the wing dry after licking my fingers and then caressing the fly.  I do that alot, I've got issues.  

 

Stripped the front half of the fly, shortened the wings un-splayed this time, hackle is a tad shorter.  Much better proportions this time.    

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Nice Spruce flies.  Those are some nice feathers from a yard bird.  All my badgers area India capes and are on the slim side.  

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Yep.  Watching some Wyandotte  with anticipation.  They are light in the center and dark outside.  Never seen a fly with them.  

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On 2/2/2023 at 10:34 AM, johnnyquahog said:

This is  a confidence fly for me.  Better directions can be found on jackgartside dot com and he also ties it on YouTube. I’ve also been lucky enough to watch him tie it a couple of times.  He was a true trout bum.  These are part of a set of 16 going to casting for recovery.

F5426B04-B64C-4C26-8CCF-5427D8DA14C0.thumb.jpeg.b496d1fc7b43ed054ee467e97c329800.jpeg
 

Hook - size 10, 12 or 8. These are size 10 tiemco 5263 but any 2x or 3x works.

thread - I use 8/0 in black, olive, tan or orange

tail - short marabou fluffy feathers from ring neck pheasant or turkey.  I also use pine squirrel clumps. Keep tail short / hook gap to 1/3 length.

body - dubbing; above are Whitlock blends.  Spikey hares ear or squirrel, rabbit synthetic sparkley blends work well.

collar - see picture; natural or dyed pheasant rump feather.  Concave side folded back extended to end of tail and beyond.  Only one turn according to jack.  I usually do two complete turns to get good distribution of barbules.

head - aftershaft feather(s) taken from base of rump feather. This delicate feather is tied in and stroked back against the collar. I’m good with five turns and six is better. Moist fingers help.  Electric test grabbers may help but I prefer just fingers.

whip finish - try to keep the whip finished head smaller than my ties above.

88775116-224F-4003-9152-7CFFA56D436E.thumb.jpeg.78c3a5fee8134fbd42f32eb17716e9c8.jpeg

above is an olive dyed rump feather along side the aftershaft feather. Snip the rump feather right above the fluff, wax thread and tie onto hook concave side down, take a turn or two and secure with a couple wraps of thread stroking/shaping feather rearward.

This fly can be fished as a nymph or streamer.

these were tied by Gartside who passed away way too early.  All black or peacock herl body is called an “evening star”.

63D129C3-D1F9-4522-9B0F-F141EB968ECA.thumb.jpeg.df270ca6a6782a15d945bacce35efe87.jpeg
 

I need to review this thread to see what pattern hasn’t been done.

 

next challenge:  any Carrie Stevens style trolling streamer for landlocked salmon or trout.  From Mickey Finn to grey ghost and beyond. Thanks and tight wraps.

I'll take the Carrie Stevens style streamer. Warning, I'm not nearly as fast as most here are at tying patterns.

Regards,

                   Mark

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