Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2022 I think the "new" rules really open this up to everyone. Thanks for thinking and posting Norm and thanks trouttramp for accepting the revisions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 REVERSE SPIDER SOFT HACKLE Okay, Ladies and boys, here it is. I'd never heard of this fly until Trouttramp posted the challenge. Thankfully there was enough on the internet to learn a little bit about it. What I found from my limited searching is that Mike Kinney is given credit for it's creation. From http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/080706fotw.php: Mike Kinney's Reversed Spider was originally tied for the Stillaguamish River's sea-run cutthroat but has proven to be highly effective, not only in other rivers for cutthroat and steelhead, but also in salt water for cutthroat, Coho and even Chinook salmon. It is a style of fly rather than an individual pattern and can be tied in a wide variety of colors and many different kinds of feathers may be used for the hackle. Its greatest attraction seems to lie in the extremely active and seductive movement of the reverse-tied hackle, I know of no other fly that can even begin to equal it. (underline added) Originally tied using the black tipped white feather of a Lady Amherst pheasant for the tail and hackle, but as my underlining above points out, it is a style of fly rather than an individual pattern , so here is my version, trying to imitate a golden stonefly nymph: EDIT: re-tied to remove space behind hackle, increased amount of brown dubbing (much better, IMO), new photo added: Mine was tied a bit differently from the link posted above; I used a dubbed body in place of the original chenille, added ribbing, and changed the type of hackle feather. Hook: #8 Thread: Uni Camel, 72D Hackle/Tail: (I believe this is a mallard breast feather, collected on a hike a year or two ago). The feather is tied in concave side down with the stem pointing over the hook eye, secured with a few wraps of thread, the tip of the feather is cut off and saved to be used as the tail, the hackle is wound rearward from the eye (2 wraps here), secured, trimmed off, the rib is tied in, the thread is wound backward to above hook barb, and the feather tip is tied in as the tail. Rib: copper wired Tail: tip of hackle, see above Body: Golden stone rabbit dubbing and rusty brown rabbit dubbing, dubbed on thread alternately to produce a variegated effect. My own criticism is that there should be no space between the dubbed body and hackle to better support the hackle when fishing. As always, constructive critiques, questions, and corrections are welcome by me. The foreword slanted hackle on this fly reminded me of another relatively simple old fly that I tie, not too obscure but definitely not often seen in the fly shop bins, which is the next challenge, if you choose to accept: The John Storey Fly Reminder about the guidelines: 1 Tier that accepts challenge has up to 5 days to tie fly and post pic, some leeway will be allowed on the number of days. 2 only the first tier that accepts the challenge will tie and post a picture of the fly 3 after posting pictures of the completed fly, that poster then names a new challenge fly. 4 any version of the challenge fly is acceptable 5 have fun, this is not a competition, just a way to see some different versions of flys Tie YOUR version of the named fly..feel free to list recipe or background. That tier then names the next fly to be tied by the next tier that accepts the challenge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 I’ll take on the John storey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 John Storey (Dry) John Storey Hook - Mustad 94840 or equivalent Thread - Claret* Body - Peacock herl Hackle - Medium dark red cock** Wing - Tip of a speckled feather from mallard breast*** *I used brown thread **(English term for brown) ***I used teal Trout and Salmon Flies of Wales - Moc Morgan - Page 89 John Storey (Wet) John Storey Hook - Mustad 3399 or equivalent Thread - Claret* Body - Peacock herl Hackle - Medium dark red cock** Wing - Mallard breast feather*** *I used brown thread **(English term for brown) ***I used teal Trout and Salmon Flies of Wales - Moc Morgan - Page 103 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 the next fly to be tied in this challenge will be Grizzly Hackle Yellow the above fly may be tied as a dry, wet, streamer or even a salmon fly. you pick the version you want to tie rules applied as stated in the original posting. hopefully ive given new tyers a chance at this challenge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 53 minutes ago, flytire said: Grizzly Hackle Yellow great choice, the possible patterns could fill a few fly boxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, flytire said: the next fly to be tied in this challenge will be Grizzly Hackle Yellow hopefully ive given new tyers a chance at this challenge If no one takes it by tomorrow evening.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 I’ll take it if you don’t mind Sandan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Poopdeck said: I’ll take it if you don’t mind Sandan. All yours. Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2022 Thank you Sandan! I tried a couple different things. It’s the best I got. Next up how about one for the WW amongst us and let’s do a Charlie Boy hopper, with or without eyes, depending on if you want it to see where it’s going. Grizzly Hackle Yellow Hook - 12 Thread - burnt orange or yellow UTC70 Tail - red bucktail or orange hackle fibers Rib - silver tinsel Body - yellow EP fiber or yellow floss from the wife ( the fly with the yellow head is the floss body. Post - Yellow EP fiber Hackle - Grizzly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Poopdeck said: Grizzly Hackle Yellow Nice, I like #1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2022 22 hours ago, flytire said: John Storey (Dry) Not a criticism, just a comment. I only tie the dry version with the forward slanted wing, and fish it either wet or dry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2022 it was in the book i referenced so i tied it both ways its purely the tyers option on how to tie and fish it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeezy 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2022 I’ll take the Charlie Boy Hopper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2022 Nice job poopdeck. That was a quick pick up squeezy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites