The challenge thread!

[flytire 0]

next challenge fly is a Whitlocks Red Fox Squirrel Tail Nymph

[cencalfly 0]

I'll take the Whitlock nymph. 

Supposed to be raining heavy tomorrow so it seems like a good day to make a pot of chowder and tie a fly or two.  I also want some of these for early season nymphing.  

[niveker 0]

Nice flies all around, good to see the interest in this thread.  

13 hours ago, cphubert said:

Bomber

That looks good.  I really should try to tie some of these up, I have so much deer hair, but they look time consuming.  

Can you tell me, is the only difference between the Bomber and the Carter bug the tail material and the wing?  I have no idea which is the older pattern, but I can see myself sitting down to tie a Bomber and (being the lazy tier that I sometimes am) just using deer hair for the tail and leaving off the wing.   

I like all those S&M bobbin holders you got there, I have a few and really like them.  Do you just change the stem/tube when switching threads?  I'm not quite getting the purpose of the no stems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[upnorthtier 0]

1 hour ago, niveker said:

Can you tell me, is the only difference between the Bomber and the Carter bug

Pretty much the same fly, some of the differences i notice is how pack the deer hair is, the bomber is much more packed, tighter and trimmed more like cigar shape with a tapper on both ends where the carter bug is trimmed on a tapper from the rear. The carter bug the hackle bends towards the rear where a bomber bends towards the eye. Don't forget there's also buck bugs, same as bombers but tied on a smaller hook, usually size 10 to 18.

I also would like to know if there's any other differences

[niveker 0]

Thanks UNT, Buck Bugs sound interesting.

[upnorthtier 0]

11 minutes ago, niveker said:

Thanks UNT, Buck Bugs sound interesting.

Buck bugs are killer for rainbows here in the north, this one in particular. tied on 3761 size 12 or 14

 

 

[niveker 0]

Nice.

I don't know why but I think I actually have some green deer here also. That'll be the first one I try tying. 

[flytire 0]

Carters bug - Step by Step Patterns & Tutorials - Fly Tying (flytyingforum.com)

[niveker 0]

👍 Norm

[cphubert 0]

2 hours ago, niveker said:

difference between the Bomber and the Carter bug

Norm's post is a very good instruction not packed as tight or as pretty as a bomber, I learned from Bryant Freeman (passed last year) of Eskape Anglers NB. fast tie and a very effective pattern, just remember to trim the bottom flat. The Rivers Course blog has a picture of a proper carters bug The River's Course (theriverscourse.blogspot.com) they look like a very poorly tied fly but fishes well.

[cencalfly 0]

On 12/2/2022 at 4:29 PM, flytire said:

next challenge fly is a Whitlocks Red Fox Squirrel Tail Nymph

Here is a link to a good discussion and instructions on the nymph https://davewhitlock.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/RFSHN-story-and-tying.pdf

 

Whitlock's Red Fox Nymph 

Hook:  #10 Mustad 3906B

Thread:  Orange Uni 

Abdomen:  Whitlock SLF Dubbing (RFSN- Abdomen)

Thorax:  Blend of Australian Opossum and charcoal Antron dubbing

Rib:  Small gold oval tinsel

Tail:  Tuft of hair from the rump area of a red fox squirrel

Hackle: Partridge

 

 

Next fly challenge is - Don Martinez Black Nymph

[flytire 0]

i'll take the martinez black nymph

 

Martinez Black Nymph

 

Hook - Mustad 3906B

Thread - Black

Tail - Guinea hen fibers

Ribbing - Copper wire

Body - Black dubbing (original was black seal fur)

Wing case – Green swiss straw or equivalent

Thorax - Black chenille

Hackle - Hungarian partridge

 

Popular Fly Patterns - Terry Hellekson

 

The Martinez Black Nymph was designed by Don Martinez back in the 1940s. It was without a doubt the dominate nymph of the era. Mr. Martinez ran a fly shop in the West Yellowstone area.

bonus. heres a video i did tying the fly

https://youtu.be/OPyLRFh_wc4

[flytire 0]

the next challenge fly will be a Stonefly

your choice of style

[niveker 0]

6 hours ago, flytire said:

the next challenge fly will be a Stonefly

Hopefully someone new will join in, but if no one speaks up by tomorrow (Tuesday) morning,  I will take that challenge.  

[niveker 0]

I understand,

its been a pretty good thread so far, I think, but its always nice when someone new joins in.  

I'll post the guidelines here again: 

rules

1   Tier that accepts challenge  has up to 5 days to tie fly and post pic,  some leeway will be allowed on the number of days.

2  only the first tier that accepts the challenge will tie and post a picture of the fly

3  after posting pictures of the completed fly, that poster then names a new challenge fly.

4  any version of the challenge fly is acceptable 

5  have fun, this is not a competition, just a way to see some different versions of flys

Tie YOUR version of the named fly..feel free to list recipe or background.