Alex C. 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 How do you wrap pheasant tail? I would like to tie up some of these I guess my confusion is mostly as to what part of PT will I be wrapping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sjo Crapels 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 What you're looking for for wrapping are some fibers of a centre tail feather of a Golden Pheasant. Depending on the size of the fly and depending on how thick or how thin you want the abdomen to be, you ty in some fibers, point pointing to the eye. Ty these in where you tied in the tailfibres. Then bring your tying thread to the midpoint of the hook and wrap the pheasant tail fibres round the hook until you reach the tying thread. Here you decide if there is enough left to use for the thorax corner. If not you ty in a new bunch of fibers. Sjo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 that doesn't sound to bad, what's a thorax corner? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 Try this tutorial, the concept is the same: http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/pt/index.shtml Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 thanks, thats a great tutorial Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyle Hand 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2005 I would just like to add to what the other folks have told you. After I tie in the tail, I tie in 6-8 fibers by the tips. Then you can do a number of things. One is to wrap them around the thread similar to peacock herl to help support them as you wrap them forward (they are somewhat fragile). The second is to twist the fibers and grasp the ends of them with electrical grips and wind them on the hook shank that way. Another way to do it is to wrap your ribbing wire around the fibers and wrap them all forward at once. I think the thorax corner should have been thorax cover, or shell back (don't know for sure). Also, try a number of different tail fibers. Ringneck, golden, amherst tail fibers look great, but try some Kori Bustard fibers. These look awesome. Kyle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2005 Where do Kori Bustard fibers come from, where can I get them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sjo Crapels 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2005 QUOTE (OLB @ Aug 21 2005, 04:39 PM) that doesn't sound to bad, what's a thorax corner? I've got very big fingers, I tried to type Thorax Cover. Sorry. Sjo For reinforcement you can also cover the shank with head cement and wrap the fibers while it's still wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2005 I've only used nymph skin so far for wingcases(thorax covers), when using feahers such as turkey, pheasant, etc, do I coat it before or after it's tied in? I'll be using sally hansen's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atroutbum2 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2005 OLB, you want to coat the shank of the hook before you wrap the phesant . The phesant fibers are fragile, and the teeth of the trout will tear them up fast, and gluing them to the shank will reinforce them. The way i reinforec the fibers is to bind a thread ti the shank at the point you tie the phesant tail fibers. , then catch the thread and the p.t. fibers in a pair of hackle pliers, and spin the fibers( i use this same technique to reinforce peacock herl) into a rope , and then wint it uo the shank of the hook to make the abdomen. Here is an excelent tutorial on the pt nymph. http://www.charliesflybox.com/flybox/details.cfm?parentID=71 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flymaster 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2005 on a plain PT fly i like to use the end ot the pheasent piece as the tail and then just advance it forward. I like to use copper wire as a reienforcement it works well and adds some wieght to get the fly to break the surface without using lead. I just use the PT feather for the wing case too. ONly PT tail fibers, peacock hearl and wire a hook and maybe some lead on my PTs. Well and some thread! FM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites