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It has come to my attention that lately there has been a rash of people dropping out of swaps for some reason or another, weather legitimate or otherwise.

This type of behavior has a souring effect on people’s attitudes toward participating in swaps on this web site.

Before you join or even host a swap make sure you have ample time in your schedule to complete your flies and make a note of which swaps you have joined and when the deadlines are.

And please read and understand the rules of each swap before joining.

Dropping out of swap for legitimate reasons is understandable, but if not meeting your swap obligations become a common practice.

 

Please be advised that the management and moderators will be starting to keep track of how many time individual swappers drop out of swaps and any excessive noncompliance and your screen name will end up on a list that Swap meisters can view to determine if they want you in the swap that they're hosting.

OSD.

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Just a quick addition to what Bob said. For any member hosting swaps, we need your help in keeping track of people who are dropping out. There is so much that we keep track of that it would be hard for us to keep tabs on everything going on with the swaps. I am most interested in people who are "no shows" and no contact is made and they seem to have just disappeared.

 

We understand that things to come up that take a higher priority and are out of your control. It is only those who do this repeatedly that we are looking to weed out.

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To all swappers-

 

 

Myself and the other mods have noticed and been discussing a growing problem here. Awhile back OSD posted a notice to all swappers to make sure that you are on time for any swaps you decide to join, and yet if anything we notice that things have done nothing but get worse over the past 6 months. It seem's to be common practice for swappers lately to wait till the week before the deadline to tie and then send thier flies to the SM, that is NOT the way a swap should be done, that not only makes it hard for the swapmeister but in 90% of the cases it prolongs the swap because of time restraints for the flies to get to the SM by the due date. Another problem is there are guys that spend extra money to next day air their flies so they are there by the due date and then the swap ends up being extended because of a number of swappers that still don't have their flies to the SM on time, so that guy that spent the extra $5/10 to get his flies to the SM on time is just screwed because of the other late swappers.

 

It's pretty simple guys and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.....If you don't have time to fulfill your commetment to get the flies to the SM on time then DONT join the swap! And furthermore the due date is the date that the flies have to be in the SM's hands...NOT the date that the flies need to be in the mail. So if you live out of the country and you know darn well that your flies take 2 weeks transit time then make sure you mail them at least 2 weeks before the deadline, not 2 days before the deadline.

 

These things should be self-explainatory and we really should not have to even bring them up, but this is simply getting out of control and we will not let late swappers ruin the name of FTF swaps that we have all worked so hard to uphold. We have warned in the past that we would start keeping a list of swappers that held up swaps and we are now doing that. If we notice a trend where someone is late a couple time in a short period then that person will be banned from participating in anymore swaps.

 

This has been agreed upon by all the mods and everyone will be watching the swaps to make sure things are run in a smooth easy manner.

 

FTF Staff

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Another problem is there are guys that spend extra money to next day air their flies so they are there by the due date and then the swap ends up being extended because of a number of swappers that still don't have their flies to the SM on time, so that guy that spent the extra $5/10 to get his flies to the SM on time is just screwed because of the other late swappers.

 

Indeed!

 

Thanks Steve.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

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We have warned in the past that we would start keeping a list of swappers that held up swaps and we are now doing that. If we notice a trend where someone is late a couple time in a short period then that person will be banned from participating in anymore swaps.

 

I think its a great idea!!!

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU,

 

I was involved in several swaps last year that went well. I got stuck on two swaps (3 dozen flies) I eventually got my flies back, but have not participated since. My tying time is too valuable. I will probably get involved again, knowing the Mods are keeping watch; who knows I may even host now that the word has gone out.

 

Thanks Guys,

Conehead

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I will agree and Will also say that i have been guilty of not tying them but forgetting to mail them a realized that i haven't.So i will make sure that they are mailed on a fashionable and timely manner from here on out.Like i say if i'm quilty i'll be the first to admit it.

 

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Not much to figure out....A due date is a due date. :lol:

Let's not let this thread go South. It's just a reminder to get swap flies in on time.

 

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After reading this post I can see that this is a more common problem then I thought it was. I'm currently running a swap on another forum & I'm getting a little frustrated about it. The dead line was set for Sept 19th giving the tyers 2 months to complete their flies. I'm still waiting for 2 sets to arrive. One from over seas & one from someone who I've messaged twice & still have gotten no response.

 

I really enjoy swaps, but that one is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Glad to see someone is doing something about it here.

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Another problem is there are guys that spend extra money to next day air their flies so they are there by the due date and then the swap ends up being extended because of a number of swappers that still don't have their flies to the SM on time, so that guy that spent the extra $5/10 to get his flies to the SM on time is just screwed because of the other late swappers.

 

OK, lets blame someone else because your flies weren't ready on time to be shipped on the cheap.

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