Blues Brother 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Anyone know of any productive, yet simple nymphs for a noobie tyer to attempt? Thanks! ~Bryce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwings1 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Phesant tail, hare's ear, and the bead head versions of both are very simple and probably still towards the top of the list for fish production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Those and maybe a zug bug are probally the top producing nymphs of all time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Brother 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Thanks, guys. About the pheasant tail, I have tried that one before, but I just can't get the wingcase right. Any tips? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwings1 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 once you get the proportion correct then you are on your way. When I tie in my wingcases I usually use more PT fibers than you'd see in a book; that does two things...first it builds up a larger base for the front section of the body and second it allows for a wider looking case when you pull it forward and tie it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Coat the feather slips, with head cement or simmilar, and let dry. take a section of feather, I find larger than what you would think you will need. Tie in by the tips, good side down. Wrap the thorax and when ready to tie down the wing case make a wrap of thread over the feather, drawing the feather up and forward tightening the thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Brother 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 once you get the proportion correct then you are on your way. When I tie in my wingcases I usually use more PT fibers than you'd see in a book; that does two things...first it builds up a larger base for the front section of the body and second it allows for a wider looking case when you pull it forward and tie it off. Ok, thanks. The part about the wide wingcase is my problem. Mine is just too darn narrow once I pull it forward. So I'll use your tip. ~Bryce PS What can I substitute for biots? I don't currently have any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 The tips of pheasant tail fibers, or any tips of feather slips. There alot of feathers that on there priamary wing feathers there are small featheres like biots. Im not sure what you want to use the biots for but if its for legs round rubber hackle or super stretch floss will suffice as a good legs. For tails pheasant tail will work good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Brother 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 I want biots for flies like prince nymphs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Hook is a 3906B size 16 with a bead head. Tie in 2 Goose biots for tailing 2 colors of Brassie wire.One color on each side and wraped forward. Tie in a small strand of crystal flash for back legging and dub a small thorax from black dubbing. Tie in another strand of the crystal flash behind the bead head for the front legging. Add 2 boits for the antennas and whip finnish. I tied 50 of these the other night. Pretty fast tie. Brent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chase Creek 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 All good tips. When you sit down to tie, do several of the same pattern. You'll see an improvement in your results by just tying several of the same pattern at one session. Your proportions, material placement, and overall looks of the fly will get better with each one you tie. Even if the fly doesn't look exactly like the picture in the book, it will still catch fish. And don't be afraid to experiment with different materials. None of the patterns are written in stone. Most of all, have fun with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jingles 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 let me see...how about this Caddis curved hook size 12-18,Tan 6/0 thread 1. slip on a gold bead of appropriate size(basically make sure you can get it on the hook, and that it isn't too big) 2. start thrad, wrap down the bend of a hook a bit to give the fly a curved shape. 3. Tie pheasant tail fibers for a tail, aproximately the length of the shank of the hook(the part you tie on) these should be angled down. 4.wrap thread forward, take the ends of the pheasant tail you used for the tail and wrap them towards the eye of the hook, most of the way up and tie off. 5. a small clump of chickabou or cul de canard grey looks nice tied in as a wing. 6.slide bead back toward the phesant tail covering those wraps tying it down 7. Move thread to in front of the bead near the eye of the hook, make a neat head and tie off. This fly was in one of the more recent fly tyer magazines, under beginner's corner-better beadsmanship the cover's main article is about grading hackle, other than that, I can't tell you much more about the issue. pick it up, it has lots of useful patterns and is very inspirational. Cheers, Mr. Jingles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyfishingwright 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 I like the PT nymph alot. I usually tie some as a flashback PT. Just use some krystal flash or similar material for the wing case. They look good and in my opinion are easier to tie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishyfranky 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 I think, that most nymphs are functionally equivalent to a bit of lint wrapped around a hook. The only problem is aquiring the confidence to fish with a bit of lint. The strange thing is, I've happily fished nymphs that have been chewed up by 10 fish and look like a soggy blob. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyfishingwright 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 I think, that most nymphs are functionally equivalent to a bit of lint wrapped around a hook. The only problem is aquiring the confidence to fish with a bit of lint. The strange thing is, I've happily fished nymphs that have been chewed up by 10 fish and look like a soggy blob. I second that, I have fished many nymphs successfully as they were hanging off the hook by a thread. I also agree that confidence in a fly is key with any fly, dry or wet. Good point fishyfranky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites