Deer hair trouble

[matt_jones 0]

Im trying to tie up some deceivers and when I get to tying the throat in (deer hair) it flares up on me. How can I concentrate the deer hair on one side of the hook so that it all stays in one direction?

Thanks

[Moxie 0]

Make a couple of loose wraps around the bundle first, then tightly wrap it after you have it under control. Also sometimes it is easier to put the bucktail you are about to tie at a little angle to the hook shank.

[flyfishingtaz 0]

it depends on the hair also. If you use belly hair, its thicker. great for bass bugs. If you use the hide, or tail, it wont flair as bad, and you can tie it in for a throat, or a wing and not flair as bad.

[matt_jones 0]

I have tried loose wraps and putting it at an angle, but it still doesnt work.. I guess i need to keep practicing

 

[Blueman89 0]

Just as FFTaz said, sounds like your using hair from the wrong area of the deer. You need to use deer tail for deceivers. Most body hair you buy is the hollow winter hair. It's used for making bass bugs mostly.

[Ron Eagle Elk 0]

Good suggestion from everyone. One other thing that might be happening is your using too much hair. A trick I learned from Al Beatty is to make the hair clump no larger than the eye of the hook. Seems to work for me.

[smusgrove 0]

Matt,

 

If you are using bucktail, and none of the other suggestions help, you might try this to keep the hair from spreading around the hook shank. Hold the bucktail near the hook shank where you want to tie it in, and take a single thread wrap around just the bucktail (not the hook shank). Take the next wrap around both the hook shank and the bucktail and continue binding it down to the hook. This should keep it from spreading around the hook shank. You might also try adding a little head cement to the bucktail before tying it in.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Steve.

[billb 0]

Matt:

 

You can cut down on the flaring by using hair only from the top two-thirds of the tail (nearest the tip). If you take a couple of not-too-tight turns around the hair and the hook initially to hold things down, do not make any of the subsequent (and tighter) turns on top of or behind those first wraps. I also use some head cement on the butt ends, but usually only if I'm only tying in a big clump of hair.

 

Be sure to pull out the shorter hairs after cutting the clump close to the tail hide, to reduce the diameter of the clump at its butt end (the end you're tying in). Then trim the clump to length, and if the butt ends slip in your fingers before you get them tied in, even them up (not the tapered ends of the hair that will point to the tail of the fly) get in a hair stacker. This last task will help you tie a neater head.

 

Hope this didn't state the obvious too much! Practice, and more practice, will make you more efficient and proficient at tying in deer hair, and at doing so many other fly-tying activities.

 

Bill

[matt_jones 0]

Thanks everyone for all of the tips. I will keep practicing and post some flies here in the upcoming weeks.

Matt

[purolohi kalastaja 0]

Somewhere else in the forum, someone was wondering why so many people just view and don't post. I think I can answer that question here.

 

I signed on tonight with the intent to ask for advice on tying in deer hair on humpies, and here I find advice that will probably help me with my question!

 

Thanks!!

[Joe Hard 0]

Check this video out,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdarl70ak4E