threadbear 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 Where to start. Every time I try to fix one thing I mess up another. My first the tail was too short and the wing too high which caused the fly to have a "stubby" appearance. I can now see that after it was pointed out by Dave. So I took that to heart and over cooked my response on the second but learned a lot on both. I can see for me the biggest challenge will be to develop the eye for proportions and the discipline necessary not to try to rush thru the steps towards completion. All of my tying prior to this has been to replace flies lost during the previous days fishing before getting to bed and I need to eliminate that mindset. Have at it guys. There are lots of aspects that need work. Thanks and don't be timid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 Man, if these are your first two I can't wait to see what you'll be tying in the future :headbang: Looking at the first one, the areas I see room for improvement are -at first I wanted to say the tail seems a little too short, and the wing is too high. But the overall shape of the wing looks pretty good versus the hook so I'm scratching my head Maybe cause I like flies that are a little top-heavy :dunno: -the wing looks like it's just a smidge too far forward in relation to the front of the throat -the JC seems a little low, but I think that's partly due to the wing being a little high -I don't know if it's another one of those personal preference things but to my eye, it looks weird that the last wrap of ribbing isn't closer to the back edge of the throat -the ostrich is a little sloppy -the tips on the GP tippets look a little out of alignment with one another The second looks much better, I find myself wanting to take the wing from the second and mount it on the body of the first though -the front edge of the wing is out in front of the front edge of the collar -the body doesn't appear to have much taper -the tag is just a little too far forward(just a little) -the tips of the wing are a little low in relation to the tips of the tail -the body hackle could use a little brushing Take all these with a grain of salt, I'm just a beginner too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronn Lucas 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 Both excellent!!!! :headbang: :headbang: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sky-pilot 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 Very nice both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peaty Mann 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 Hi threadbear, What can I say but just excellent, both flies beautifully tyed throughout and photographed perfect. Well done.... All the best Davie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Guidry 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 holy crap, i can't believe the flies coming off this siminar. some, as these, are so well done. congrats guys hats of to the mentors and participants Bud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Skory 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2007 Excellent. Pretty damned good for a guy who is used to tying a few wraps on a size 18 fly. Can't wait for the next ones. Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Inman 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2007 Bill, As I have already told you in e-mail, you are a natural and I cannot wait to see how you progress from here. Great work from a photography and tying standpoint. You may not be very good with your e-mail but everything else seems to look easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2007 Beauties!!! You are good!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ephemerella 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2007 Wow! Those are both great! -E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vickie Eagle Elk 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2007 Don't feel bad my first tail was way to long so I tried to do a shorter one acording to what the hook gap was and now tthe tail and topping don't meet etc.. LOL Go look at mine and then look at yours again..You should be very proud to frame and keep these...I may not know what I'm doing but, I do know a nice tie when I see it! VEE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites