Shaq 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2007 Wing: Wood Duck Flank Tail: Dark Blue Dun Hackle Fibres Body: Stripped Peacock Quill Lacquered optional Hackle: Dark Blue Dun Hackle Video http://www.theanglersnet.com/Fly-Fishing-V...n=6&VID=139 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willowhead 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2007 I like the Quill Gordon as well. There are many different ways to de-herl the quills, and that is one of the best. Again, it's fast. Some soak the quills, other don't. I think it's a good idea to do so but not for to long. If you soak them to long it weekens them. Some use a bit of varnish or thinned head cement ( i like Dave's Fleximent, thinned) over the quill bodies to reinforce them. I couldn't care less either way unless the fly is goin' in a frame, then i do it.....simply because it makes it look better. If i get one fish outta one fly, i'm happy when fishin'. I've got thousands and thousands of flies.........and thousands and thousands of hooks and all the materials to tye for this and two more lifetimes.........who cares how long a fly last. If your selling them, that's another story. Then durability matters. I'd just rather not put anymore unessessary chemicals in the water. That's also why i only use water based head cement for fishin' flies. Your hackle is a bit long this time as well, but you should always have some snippers in your vest anyway for when you wanna clip 'em down to float lower in the water. No biggie. Good job. mark..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalWulff 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 some dip their peacock eyes in parafin wax and let them dry. That way your herls are together and all you need to do is strip the quill and wax and you are ready to go. The wax almost magically removes the fibers and leaves a nice shiney quill that makes a tight body. i have never done this, -Phil by the way beauty fly, i bet that will take its fair share of our watery friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willowhead 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Yes, i've seen the entire eye of a feather dipped like that. Seems like a whole lotta work and a mess to deal with......but you do get the shine. Quicker and easier way to get that though, is just to put a very thin(inned) layer of head cement over the body once wraped. Makes it more durable as well, and water proofs it to a degree. mark..... OH! and on that note, (waterproffing) use floatant instead of wax when you dub, ( for dubbed flies) just a bit on the thread, and on your fingers. Works great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalWulff 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 willowhead... what sort of floatant? Like a liquid silicon, or something like a mucilin paste? I have never used wax, but some say a glue stick works. I would like to try that floatant trick though, sounds awesome. -Phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willowhead 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Yes, the liquid cell type. The kind that usually turns completely liquid with the heat of your hand/fingers. I've had orders to make "Pellet Flies" for fishing for Hybred Stripers at these places in Maryland where they raise them for fishing by-the-pound in big ponds, and bout the only thing that works when you wanna catch 'em on top, is a Pellet fly. So, i dub the bodies using the floatant.....(on the thread and on my fingers when dubbing), then palmer a brown hackle through the body and trim it real short and then treat with the floatant again hours before fishing. Flies are all but impossible to sink. The same method works real well with dry fly bodies, even though you don't have the palmered hackle nessessarily. The trick is to use as much as you can get away with, without messin' up the nice texture of the body. Just go it a little at a time. You know how a dry fly body should be done anyway.........by building up the taper, a little at a time............same with the floatant, just a little at a time. Don't use gobbs. mark..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandflyx 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2007 I think the origanal fly was meant to copy the spinner..If you look at Quill Gordon dun its actually a dirty olive in color so I tie 2 flys one standard and when they start hatching one with this: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ten Bears 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2007 Very nice job. I prefer rooster quills over peacock. They aren't as fragile as the peacock and I think they float better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites