Old Hat 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2008 What are the main differences other than geographical? :dunno: If any. "Not trying to open a can of worms " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flycaster 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2008 We call them chironomids or midges, the Brits call them buzzers. No can o' worms- ain't bait fishers. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Hat 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2008 Pretty much what I suspected. I don't see too many "buzzers" though it seems with beads. However a lot of the western chironomid patterns use a bead. I am familiar with the standard fishing techniques for chironomids and maybe someone from elsewhere could elaborated on "buzzer techniques without beads. I'll be honest that one of the attractivenesses of this site to me is the globalization of patterns and methods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2008 i'm sure that adding a bead to any "buzzer" pattern would still be effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
professori 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2008 Here in BC chironomid fishing is by far the most prominent stillwater technique. Many patterns incorporate bead heads, but an equal number are beadless. When fishing either type of pattern, many anglers pinch a splitshot 12-18" above their fly and use the weight of the shotto assist getting the fly down to the fish. Another technique is to place a swivel at the end of the leader and then tie a short tippet to the swivel and attach the chironomid to that. In either case, the fly is most often fished a foot or two from the bottom of the lake. This can mean leaders of up to 30'. Beyond that depth a full sink line is the only way to fish. Here is a small sample of some BC patterns: http://www.flyfishbc.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/552 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdewy 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2008 Now 30 feet is one hellofa leader! :bugeyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontheo 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2008 Hell, that was a great question. Check out You Tube under Davie McPhail. He tyes a couple of buzzers that kind of end up with a bead head. I tied some up last month and they worked real well in upstate NY. T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Eagle Elk 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2008 You might check out http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/ for some buzzer patterns. Great info site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Hat 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2008 Thank you. That is a great nice site and I have scanned over it before, and found it just as entertaining the second time around. As a personal note: I do prefer the look and style of the "buzzers" to our western ice cream cone style chironomid flies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2008 not all western chironimid patterns are "ice cream cone" style Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Hat 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2008 Sorry, I know, I just felt like lumping. I like the look of the epoxied buzzers with the nice taper and biot splashes of color along the sides of the thorax. I have always had luck with chironomids in tailwater systems but surely need more practice in the art of fishing them in still water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites