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"Next Generation" Wadd's

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Since the success of the "Generation X" Wadd's I've been thinking and experimenting with ways to add action and sinking qualities to my flies .

 

Well after a "few" experiments , sleepless nights , hours at the vise and days on the water ...... :rolleyes: ..........

 

I've come up with these "Next Generation" Wadd's

 

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This is a double tail , I know hard to tell , my pics need a lot of work ........

 

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These really sink like a rock , actually they dive during the swing , due to the pheasant feather wing . I flex cement two together , let them dry and then lay a third feather (no glue) over top . The wing acts like a lip on a crank bait . As it dives , it wiggles . The double wing (second wing at the rear of the shank) slows down the descent , but the wiggle is slower , more of a side to side movement . It's not very good in faster water though , it looses all it's action . Never the less , it works great in slower (walking pace) stump filled water which I intended it to be used in .

 

Hope you like them !

 

 

 

Mike

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Mike, those are KILLER........AMAZING flies........i know it's a way over-abused word.........but they GOTTA be, DEADLY!!!!!!! Man, they just look LEATHAL!!!!! You REALLY should be demonstrating how to tye those at the shows..........BET, NOBODY else is. You'd be a VERY welcome addition to any show. i had some Waddington shanks once, but i gave them away to a member here.......well, Say Lah Vee..... :rolleyes: .......we're gonna be in Michigan next weekend, wish you could be there.......Btw, guess what happened today.......we we're diggin' around in the freezer.....and my wife found a big baggie in the back, down underneath some other "Stuff"..........a complete Natural BLACK hen skin. :yahoo: :hyst: :headbang: :bugeyes: :lol: :D Complete with some Moth crystals in the bag........i can't even remember when i put it in there :dunno: .....Good luck on stream with those great flies, mark..... ;)

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Since the success of the "Generation X" Wadd's I've been thinking and experimenting with ways to add action and sinking qualities to my flies .

 

Well after a "few" experiments , sleepless nights , hours at the vise and days on the water ...... :rolleyes: ..........

 

I've come up with these "Next Generation" Wadd's

 

P1011216.jpg P1011213.jpg

 

This is a double tail , I know hard to tell , my pics need a lot of work ........

 

P1011209.jpg P1011222.jpg

 

P1011217.jpg

 

These really sink like a rock , actually they dive during the swing , due to the pheasant feather wing . I flex cement two together , let them dry and then lay a third feather (no glue) over top . The wing acts like a lip on a crank bait . As it dives , it wiggles . The double wing (second wing at the rear of the shank) slows down the descent , but the wiggle is slower , more of a side to side movement . It's not very good in faster water though , it looses all it's action . Never the less , it works great in slower (walking pace) stump filled water which I intended it to be used in .

 

Hope you like them !

 

 

 

Mike

 

Hi Mike

Great to see your ideas materialize. The next generation seems just as good as the ones you presented last year (generation X) and how these flies worked.

 

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I am sure that the extra weight might come in handy when the water is F.... cold and you need to get near the bottom.

It is time to tie.

Regards

Jens

 

 

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Thanks guys .... glad you like them :rolleyes:

 

Jens,

I'm very happy you found some success with the Gen"X" wadd's .

PM me your address and I'll send you some "originals" .

 

Mark,

You are very flatterring my friend .

This time before posting , I spent time on the water "testing" these wadd's . It took a bit of time to get what I wanted .... but now I'm happy with the results .

 

 

Mike

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Hey Bro, aint no biggie.........just the straight up honest turff. Wiff two ff's. :D You dig? mark...... ;) p.s. have a good time at the Birthday Party. :P

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actually they dive during the swing , due to the pheasant feather wing . I flex cement two together , let them dry and then lay a third feather (no glue) over top . The wing acts like a lip on a crank bait . As it dives , it wiggles .

 

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

Genius! :headbang:

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Mike - I love these next-gen flies as well as your earlier generation X version. I started tying some flies earlier this fall on cotter-pins, which have many similarities to these. I need to add some of these to my box as well.

 

Question - What material are you using to hold the stinger hook?

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Mike - I love these next-gen flies as well as your earlier generation X version. I started tying some flies earlier this fall on cotter-pins, which have many similarities to these. I need to add some of these to my box as well.

 

Question - What material are you using to hold the stinger hook?

 

 

Hi Ray !!

 

I use #50 PowerPro Braid , which is about the diameter of #12 mono , but it lays really flat on the shank when you secure it . I typically use 8/0 nylon as the securing thread too , again , so it lays flat . Really helps when tying a tinsel or floss body . I like to try to keep a thin body , so it helps the fly to sink .

Dubbed bodies of fur or synthetics actually trap air bubbles and hinder the descent of a fly . If using wool , try to find wool with high contents of Lycra or Spandex . The weave is really tight and lays flat and doesn't have any buoyancy .

 

OK , I'll end my "sinking material" rant :wacko:

 

Happy tying !!

 

 

 

Mike

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mike

 

very interestng flies

 

i will bear these in mind when i put a box of waddington shanks together for the atlantics

 

all the best

john

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