Catalpa_Joe 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 It's forecast for 14 below tonite. I'd hate to think how cold it would be without global warming! :bugeyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Technically we got out of global cooling 2 years ago. Now its time for big Al to jump on the global cooling bandwagon er global cooling SUV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dafack01 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 It's weird when people around where you live are talking about how cold it'll be and the temperatures will be a high of 45 and a low of 25. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdubya 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 It's forecast for 14 below tonite. I'd hate to think how cold it would be without global warming! :bugeyes: That is why it is more appropriate to refer to the phenomenon as "global climate disruption" not the misnomer global warming. http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.p...ate_disruption/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sniksoh 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 today here in iowa we had 27 below with windchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishinbub 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 I guess we just over corrected trying to prevent global warming! LOL :hyst: I blame PETA. GW has to be the biggest money scam of our time. :ripped: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeldrifter 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Its 4 degrees here....warmer than it was yesterday so its a heat wave :hyst: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardyhead 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 4!! Man, I am coming to visit. It was -9 when I pulled my car out of the garage this morning at 5 am. When I got to work, about 20 miles away, it was -18. Usually the temperature does not go down on the way to work. Whether you believe in Global Warming or not, one of the most interesting things which the climatologists don't tell the public is that all their climate models predict the same thing after the global warming cycle. Ice Age. I am not convinced either way. I have seen enough climate data to indicate that earth has warmed over 20 years, but I don't believe any of the mainstream media. It could have done that 4000 years ago and no one would have noticed. The melthing of the glacial ice and the polar ice of the north pole is a bit disturbing to me. I do also believe in reducing emissions, whether the earth is warming or not, pollution still sucks. If the earth does warm enough, at least us northerners will have all the prime real estate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdubya 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 GW has to be the biggest money scam of our time. :ripped: Has GW cost you more than $150 for a barrel of oil? I doubt it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 GW has to be the biggest money scam of our time. :ripped: Has GW cost you more than $150 for a barrel of oil? I doubt it. Ok so they are both big scams. But I can say this oil would have stayed affordable if the GW followers would have laid off of the Gov and let us drill in places that actually "have" oil here in the good o'l USA. Ocean, Great Lakes, Anwar etc.... Dependence on Opec and Chavez for oil is a effect of GW so then uh yea GW did cause the cost er speculation of cost of oil to get out of control. Our issues with oil costs are a direct reflection of the Gov getting in the way of free markets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardyhead 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 A good portion of our oil costs are speculation (actually about 90% of it according to some reports). The recent hike in oil costs had to do with moron investors playing the futures oil markets. The supply did not go down, and the demand did not increase from the point where we were paying $1.60 a gallon to the point we were paying $4.00 a gallon, it was simply speculation by investors. And now that has collapsed. Look at what OPEC has been doing, continually cutting supply trying to 'create' demand. But oil is still dropping, because the financial bubble that supported those stupid prices burst, and the speculators got cleaned out. It was price fixing in a legal way, just like the movie Trading Places Why do you think Bush never let oil out of the strategic oil reserves, he may be a dumb country boy, but he did figure out that increasing the 'supply' would not fix the problem. Thankfully the futures markets have crashed, and will not likely inflate any time soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Very true. But if you look at the speculation market and in parallel to bills in congress you will see a steady fall after the house passed bill 236-189 in late September. The senate passed the bill in early October. Although I think the ban on offshore drilling is going to come back soon. That and the new enegry secretary (Steven Chu) who is on record with the belief that in order to have alternative forms of enegry we need 4$+ gas. Although Im of the opinion that oil needs to be 65$ a barrel Im fearing we are headed back to 140$. But back to the original thread... yep tis freakin cold! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardyhead 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 It's warmed up to 4 here. That's pretty awesome. Also, on a side note, I have a copy of Steven Chu's Nobel Prize printing autographed by him. That may seem odd, because it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 It got to 13 here today my oldest asked me "Dad how is it so cold and so sunny at the same time?" I explained barometric pressure, high pressure, wind bands and how clouds not only insulate us from heat in the summer but also hold heat down in the winter. I think she is now convinced that Im a complete dork! I guess I can live with that! Hardy you should put that Nobel prize up on ebay I got 1.6 million for Big Al's! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandflyx 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Watch out for sun spots you might get burned.... :bugeyes: :jumpy: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites