AsThe World Turns

[BillyBrookTrout 0]

I climbed up out of the river yesterday into one of those streamside state areas for camping and picknicking. I noticed all the picknick tables were now chained to trees with these trememdous logging chains which probably cost more than the tables. I thought: Criminey!!!

 

What has hapened to our country and to our people that these days everything must be under lock and key to prevent anything of even a minimal value from being ripped off? What a depressing idea. What a disgusting societial lifestyle.

 

 

I remember that when I was a kid locks were mostly unheard of. OK the front screen had a latch key but that was only to keep small kids and the family dog from sneaking out undetected. Nobody locked their homes ,day or night, home or gone. None of these elaborate ruses when you went off on vacation. Home security systems???..heck..even the bank didn't have anything like that.

 

On Lake Wylie beside 7 Oaks bridge there were some ancient pilings. Folks kept their fishing boats moored to these with chains. Chains yes but never locked. Ours was there. My father, grandfather and uncle built it one Saturday evening under the backyard chinaberry tree. Dad explained that if anyone wanted to use it...that was ok. They would return it when done and leave it in better shape than when they took it. Can you imagine that these days?

 

I have talked to guys who fish the tailrace rivers in eastern Tennessee. They tell me their rigs are often ransacked while they fish. Warn me to be very careful while I fish. Here in Oregon also a big problem. Time was you left your vehicle at a trailhead and the biggest threat was from a procupine eating your hoses. No more.Not these days. Now roving organised gangs pillage vehicles more or less at will in these remote spots. The probem is beginning to occur in areas not so remote.

 

Law enforcement can do very little. The problem is now too widespread for the resources. Or in some cases total apathy has set in. I was visiting my brother a few years back. He woke me up in the middle of the night to tell me some one was using a hacksaw to cut the chain that held his boat, motor and trailer to the huge oak tree in his backyard. He said he had called the police already but they told him they wouldn't respond. The guy would only make some lame excuse like "I was told I could borrow the boat but he forgot to give me the key." Beyond belief...yet it happened. My brother and I decided to confront the punk ourselves and found him to be just that. A doped up kid no more capable of finishing the task of cutitng the chain than he would have been able to drive away with the boat had he been able to. He was so pathetic we ended up just telling him to clear out...on foot...no way was he getting back into his truck. However that is beside the point.

 

Any how ...where does all this stop? We tend to dismiss this lowering of standards as just the world evolving and changing....but..have we hit bottom?...can it get worse?...will it get even worse than it is?...just where does it end? Maybe one day we will all be forced to live in our own personal fortresses afraid to ever leave...hey.... kinda like in the middle ages huh?

[Steeldrifter 0]

Yep its really a sad sad state of affairs isn't it. I'm gonna sound like an old man here (yet I'm only 37) but I feel the problem is because people are not brought up with the same values or respect that they use to be brought up with any longer. Back when I was a kid I was taught right from wrong by BOTH my mom & my dad. They taught me that it was not right to do certain things and if I did those things then I got in trouble and I had to take responsibilities for my actions.

 

But in todays world kids are no longer taught right from wrong or that they have to respect other people and their property. Kids today are brought up to believe that the world somehow owes them everything they want. They don't know what its like to have to work or wait for something. They don't know what its like to really value something, because they feel everything should be given to them and not earned. So when they aren't just given certian things then they go out and steal or take whatever it is that they want. They have no values instilled in them at all growing up.

 

The society we live in today absolutely flat out SUCKS. I was just reading in the paper the other day where in 2008 40% of the births in American were by unwed mothers. Now I don't want to go off on a whole side track about marriage and such, but when 40% of the kids brought into the world are brought into a situation where their is no married husband&wife then right there is already something that is going affect the way that child is brought up. People don't even respect having kids anymore. Perfect example- someone that works with a friend of mine is a 18 yr old girl and she's pregnant. of course theirs no husband/dad in the picture and the girl works part time and lives with her mom&dad. Recently I heard her on the phone talking to one of her friends and she told her girlfriend... "You should get pregnant too so we could have babies at the same time, that would be so much fun!". That's a perfect example of how stupid of kids our society is producing now a days. Because they don't even take having kids as a serious thing anymore, now its just something "fun" to do.

 

 

Okay back on track sorry for the rant Anyway...your right Billybrooktrout. Things are different and not in a good way. And I feel it's the society that we live in today that is to blame and if it keeps going the way it is now then in another 30-40 yrs the world is going to be in such sad shape that I personaly will be glad that I wont have to be around to suffer/see it.

 

Steve

[lykos33 0]

The answer....PUBLIC HANGINGS!!! If a convicted criminal knew without a doubt he/she would get the maximum penalty for their crime and it would be highly publicized...they might think twice. With DNA testing / evidence, it is a lot harder to convict the "wrong man", so that shoots down the "what if" scenario. When I was a kid, if I sassed an adult I fully expected a backhand. If I really did a no no I expected a tail whooping! If one of the neighborhood parents caught me in some shenanigans, I knew Mom and Dad would believe them over my petty attempts to lie my way out. What' sthis have to do with the state of the world today? Well to this day I still say yes mam and no mam and I know that if I lie, it will come back to bite me in the arse! Got my share of whoopings, smacks and restrictions while growing up and, lo and behold, it did NOT warp my fragile ego/mind/or any other psycho babble they want to throw out....just my not so humble opinion...and apparently yours as well Steve...

[BillyBrookTrout 0]

Punishment...I have no problem with punishment. Use it often. How realistic is it though, today, considering this society we live in with it's current mindset . Try swating your kids behind down at Safeway after he turns over the applecart on purpose. Another example. A lady I worked with told me about the shenanigans her daugter pulled....age 13. Slipping out of the house at night, boys, drugs, alcohol all that.

 

Her father tried to intervene. Locked the girl in her room. Girl reported him to the state. The state came out ...no questions asked...threw the dad out of his own home indefinitely and told him to keep the support checks current or else. Girl continued on her path. Age 16 driving some boys car, she pulled out to pass another vehicle, high on whatever. Ran smack into a semi. Case closed.

 

I fear that we have lost our national soul (and frankly our national common sense) to some creeping rottenness and I have no idea about how to fix it. I think hunting and fishing lifestyles would go a long way to correct much of this..but as sited above ...how likely is this with 40% births being in single mother households living subsidized by the state?

 

Now I'm really depressed. I think I'll go fishing.

 

 

 

[DeweyGreen 0]

When I was younger I lived 2 doors away from the County jail we never locked our doors and never had a problem.

 

Now I live on the other side of town (the good side) Our cars were broke into 2 times.

 

Once they stole a fly rod my Father inlaw used the day before he passed away.

 

Our house was broke into(now we have dogs) The 1st wedding ring I bought my wife was stolen.

 

Both Items didn't have much Value maybe 400.00. But it was the memories in those two things that hurt the most when they were stolen.

[fishinbub 0]

The answer....PUBLIC HANGINGS!!! If a convicted criminal knew without a doubt he/she would get the maximum penalty for their crime and it would be highly publicized...they might think twice. With DNA testing / evidence, it is a lot harder to convict the "wrong man", so that shoots down the "what if" scenario. When I was a kid, if I sassed an adult I fully expected a backhand. If I really did a no no I expected a tail whooping! If one of the neighborhood parents caught me in some shenanigans, I knew Mom and Dad would believe them over my petty attempts to lie my way out. What' sthis have to do with the state of the world today? Well to this day I still say yes mam and no mam and I know that if I lie, it will come back to bite me in the arse! Got my share of whoopings, smacks and restrictions while growing up and, lo and behold, it did NOT warp my fragile ego/mind/or any other psycho babble they want to throw out....just my not so humble opinion...and apparently yours as well Steve...

 

I have been getting tail whoopin's as long as I can remember. I ain't had no i'll affects, other than the fact that my bed room is full of beads, feathers, furs, and long sticks that cost lots of money. Quite frankly I'd like to beat most of the kids my age so hard they wouldn't be able to sit down for 6 months. Some people are just flat out retarded.

[smallieFanatic 0]

The answer....PUBLIC HANGINGS!!!

 

Yes! In the city square! :gun_bandana: :gun_bandana:

 

I remember once my brother had a mini storage unit and one night, it broken into, and almost every thing was stolen.

Most of it ended up on the highway.

Nobody was convicted but the mini storage owners were strongly suspected.

Just goes to show you that this is a differant world than it used to be...

 

 

[BillyBrookTrout 0]

An update to the chained picnic tables.

 

This weeks paper had an item about them being chopped up and used for firewood by campers....

 

 

:wallbash:

 

 

What a world!...what a world!

 

Wicked witch of the West