Bruce Derington 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2009 Yup, really the only way to know , is to fish it. I'm glad it worked out for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drgulian 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2009 Does the lip go through the hook shank? Or maybe I should just ask, How are you attaching the lip? I posted a similar fly in the cold water section... http://www.flytyingforum.com/pattern9142.html I ask because I like gathering intelligence on this kind of stuff. cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smalliestalker 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 that's an amazing fly by the way....beautiful....the way I made my lip was to cut mylar....I left a tag end with a slit in the middle to tie around the hook shank...then the entire thing is epoxied down.....you couldn't get that lip off with a pliers...how about yours? how's it attached? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drgulian 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 I used a #3 french spinner blade and took a small rattail file to ream out the existing hole so that it would fit over the hook eye. Then I made a tool from a piece of wood with a 45 degree angle cut. I tied the first three iterations of the fly and then trimmed it to shape. Then I slipped the lip in from the rear and used two ton epoxy in three stages to secure it, using the wood block for orientation. Then continued the deer hair stacking and trimmed up afterward. I hope that make a little sense... Clear as mud right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smalliestalker 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 that makes sense.....how does it fish? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drgulian 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 I've only given it the bath tub test, but so far, it has the best action of any fly that I have tied! It floats becuase the deer hair is so densely packed yet the metal lip orients the fly immediately. When tugged it dives, and it turns on a dime. It really has exceeded my expectations. I can't wait to fish it properly, but the trout streams are closed until May... I'm just gonna try to build up an arsenal from now until then and bide my time. It's not like I'm in a hurry. I know it will work, no question. I'm really more interested in how to present it and with what type of tackle will be the most fun and efficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BassBugs3366 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I've only given it the bath tub test, but so far, it has the best action of any fly that I have tied! It floats becuase the deer hair is so densely packed yet the metal lip orients the fly immediately. When tugged it dives, and it turns on a dime. It really has exceeded my expectations. I can't wait to fish it properly, but the trout streams are closed until May... I'm just gonna try to build up an arsenal from now until then and bide my time. It's not like I'm in a hurry. I know it will work, no question. I'm really more interested in how to present it and with what type of tackle will be the most fun and efficient. Lets see some pictures of it!! sounds great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smalliestalker 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I've only given it the bath tub test, but so far, it has the best action of any fly that I have tied! It floats becuase the deer hair is so densely packed yet the metal lip orients the fly immediately. When tugged it dives, and it turns on a dime. It really has exceeded my expectations. I can't wait to fish it properly, but the trout streams are closed until May... I'm just gonna try to build up an arsenal from now until then and bide my time. It's not like I'm in a hurry. I know it will work, no question. I'm really more interested in how to present it and with what type of tackle will be the most fun and efficient. [/quote The one I tied wiggles all over too....Dives a little when stripped.....The bass around me would go crazy for yours....In fact, I can't really think of a species that wouldn't chow that pattern down.....I might tie a few like yours.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drgulian 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I've only given it the bath tub test, but so far, it has the best action of any fly that I have tied! It floats becuase the deer hair is so densely packed yet the metal lip orients the fly immediately. When tugged it dives, and it turns on a dime. It really has exceeded my expectations. I can't wait to fish it properly, but the trout streams are closed until May... I'm just gonna try to build up an arsenal from now until then and bide my time. It's not like I'm in a hurry. I know it will work, no question. I'm really more interested in how to present it and with what type of tackle will be the most fun and efficient. Lets see some pictures of it!! sounds great. http://www.flytyingforum.com/pattern9142.html Please try to pay attention. Sorry, no offence, but I'm pretty sure it's in this thread already and my typing skills are a bit lackluster... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drgulian 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Smalliestalker: The coldwater forum has a thread called, "Gulian's not for sale", If you really want to tie one, I'll help you as much as I can and give you some of the obscure methods I used to create it. PM me. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites