waterloosunset 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 I want to split my 14/0 Sheer to make it finer for tying small flies neatly. Can I split the whole spool length in one go or do I need to do a little every time I start a fly? Any tips would be much appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arkle 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 Short lengths only I'm afraid, there are finer threads around. Uni do a 17/0 any several guy's split Moser's Power Silk as it's non twisted. There's a new thread out from Semperfli, haven't tried it yet though but the write up's seem positive. What size are you tying on, to need stuff so fine ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 I want to split my 14/0 Sheer to make it finer for tying small flies neatly. make less wraps of thread there is a 20 denier (19/0 - 20/0) thread out there http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/item/T...nis-Thread.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arkle 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 "Make less turns" absolutely agree, but make every turn count. That doesn't mean winding so tight that yoy end up bending the hook, but careful control of the tension at ALL times. You may need to adjust you bobbin holder legs for this as individual spools vary not only in size but the material they're made from & the amount of friction they impart on the holding legs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterloosunset 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 Short lengths only I'm afraid, there are finer threads around. Uni do a 17/0 any several guy's split Moser's Power Silk as it's non twisted. There's a new thread out from Semperfli, haven't tried it yet though but the write up's seem positive. What size are you tying on, to need stuff so fine ? I'm mainly tying 16s and 18s but I like a very small whip finish invisible if possible. I also like to whip finish around parachute posts. I found gudebrod 10/0 great but they're not making it anymore. I find uni 17/0 lies too flat to make a tiny whip finish. Any suggestions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterloosunset 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 "Make less turns" absolutely agree, but make every turn count. That doesn't mean winding so tight that yoy end up bending the hook, but careful control of the tension at ALL times. You may need to adjust you bobbin holder legs for this as individual spools vary not only in size but the material they're made from & the amount of friction they impart on the holding legs. Even a three turn whip finish is too bulky for me, probably because I'm too finicky! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatfly 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 You could try Benecchi 12/0. Comparable to gudebrod 10/0, perhaps even better Cannot imagine why anyone would want to waste time splitting thread for flies as large as you are tying, but to each their own... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Hat 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 I tie down to #22's and use Griffith's 14/O. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRG 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 Ever try spider web???? I think I heard someone even splits that for small stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 Short lengths only I'm afraid, there are finer threads around. Uni do a 17/0 any several guy's split Moser's Power Silk as it's non twisted. There's a new thread out from Semperfli, haven't tried it yet though but the write up's seem positive. What size are you tying on, to need stuff so fine ? I'm mainly tying 16s and 18s but I like a very small whip finish invisible if possible. I also like to whip finish around parachute posts. I found gudebrod 10/0 great but they're not making it anymore. I find uni 17/0 lies too flat to make a tiny whip finish. Any suggestions? get some Caenis thread from JStockard. http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/item/T...nis-Thread.html it is 20 denier. Gnats use it for dental floss. If a 3-turn whip finish using this stuff is "too bulky" for you, get counseling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arkle 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 If you go to www.deercreek.co.uk 1 of my fellow designers there is also a fellow countryman of yours, Andy Baird. If you go to the designers section, he's got a couple of links on there you may find worthwhile. Andy specializes in tying small patterns. Hans Wilennman, owner of the www.danica.com site also ties very small flies (32's!) & he splits 3 strands off power-silk & find that works the best, he's tried everything that comes out but that's still his favourite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 Even a three turn whip finish is too bulky for me, probably because I'm too finicky! then swipe your tying thread with crazy glue and make 2 wraps of thread and then cut the thread. its a dave whilock trick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 Even a three turn whip finish is too bulky for me, probably because I'm too finicky! then swipe your tying thread with crazy glue and make 2 wraps of thread and then cut the thread. its a dave whilock trick. wow, I know about the "zap a gap knot" but never put it together with this thread (!! ha ha) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterloosunset 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 I really don't like single strand (monofilament) threads, that's what stops me using spiderweb or 20 denier uni caenis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterloosunset 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 Gnats use it for dental floss. "Gnats use it for dental floss" love it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
