troutdogg 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2011 FYI - Buyer Beware! Good prices on TMC hooks but terrible customer service. Took weeks to send order. Invoices in full for incomplete orders! Can't respond to email about when order has shipped or provide tracking order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2011 jstockard would have been a better choice you should post it here also http://www.southeastflyfishingforum.com/forum/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2011 that sucks. It's always a drag when a merchant fails to provide good service. I second Flytire's remark- Only once have I ever had a less-than-awesome customer service issue with JStockard, and when I did, James addressed it himself right away and it was fixed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stippled Popper 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 that sucks. It's always a drag when a merchant fails to provide good service. I second Flytire's remark- Only once have I ever had a less-than-awesome customer service issue with JStockard, and when I did, James addressed it himself right away and it was fixed. And that is what makes all the difference. Something may well go wrong eventually anywhere. It is what happens after which determines whether you remain a customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutdogg 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 Yes, have used jStockard before with good success. Feathercraft is good too......... I heard that South Holston had the best prices on Tiemco hooks (They Do) and the ordering process was smooth but that's all the cudo's I can give. Still waiting to here about my backorder which I was charged for in advance (not happy about that). Lets see if they come through but i'm not holding my breath............ Live and Learn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flymanaj 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 Go with JS their service is top shelf! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbreedi1 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 Have you tried calling them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 unless you specifically requested no back orders on your order, they havent really treated you badly. ive had back orders from jstockard and hook and hackle and have always gotten the item i ordered. every fly shop out there will at times run out of stock on a number of items. it just may have been the case. if your local fly shop ran out of your favorite item, would you address the situation here by badmouthing them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidR 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 Ive ordered hooks twice from South Holston and both times had no problems even spoken with the owners who helped me out with some questions re: hooks. If you are having a problem call them. J Stockard same way - one time I had an issue with wrong item shipped James dealt with it personally and it was resolved without any problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 unless you specifically requested no back orders on your order, they havent really treated you badly. ive had back orders from jstockard and hook and hackle and have always gotten the item i ordered. every fly shop out there will at times run out of stock on a number of items. it just may have been the case. if your local fly shop ran out of your favorite item, would you address the situation here by badmouthing them? from what I read here, the problem is that they CHARGED him for the backordered items. I've never had that happen anywhere, unless of course it is a "pre-order" or something similar. If an item is backordered a merchant should not charge for it until it is shipped. From their website: Back Orders If there is to be any delay in filling your order, you will be notified. Back Orders will be held for 60 days. All Back Orders will be shipped within 60 days or cancelled. If you do not want us to ship Back Orders, we must be notified immediately or you will be subject to our returns policy on merchandise returned. It doesn't say anything about charging or not charging.... but one would ASSume they would not charge for a backordered item, it is just commonly accepted "good" customer service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tidewaterfly 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 For what it's worth, I know the owners of that shop, Rod & Matt Champion, but have not done business with them in a long time. Frankly, they cater to their local area & primarily to trout anglers, and I just don't have need for most of the products they sell. However, they're good folks, and they spend a lot of time out of the shop while guiding, so perhaps the whole matter was a simple mistake. People make mistakes. Hopefully, all will turn out fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feathers5 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 I've ordered from them with no problems. I've always found them very, very nice and helpful men. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wes917 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 unless you specifically requested no back orders on your order, they havent really treated you badly. ive had back orders from jstockard and hook and hackle and have always gotten the item i ordered. every fly shop out there will at times run out of stock on a number of items. it just may have been the case. if your local fly shop ran out of your favorite item, would you address the situation here by badmouthing them? from what I read here, the problem is that they CHARGED him for the backordered items. I've never had that happen anywhere, unless of course it is a "pre-order" or something similar. If an item is backordered a merchant should not charge for it until it is shipped. From their website: Back Orders If there is to be any delay in filling your order, you will be notified. Back Orders will be held for 60 days. All Back Orders will be shipped within 60 days or cancelled. If you do not want us to ship Back Orders, we must be notified immediately or you will be subject to our returns policy on merchandise returned. It doesn't say anything about charging or not charging.... but one would ASSume they would not charge for a backordered item, it is just commonly accepted "good" customer service. I have had orders backordered from both jstockard and hook and hackle and both charged me before the items shipped. I am currently waiting for an item from jstockard that paid for over a month ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 FYI - Buyer Beware! Good prices on TMC hooks but terrible customer service. Took weeks to send order. Invoices in full for incomplete orders! Can't respond to email about when order has shipped or provide tracking order. I'm sorry to hear that. I've ordered from them at least 5 times in the past with no problems. But I've always called my order in to find out what hooks were availbale. I've not found a cheaper source of TMC hooks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2011 Low prices don't mean jack if you can't get what you want. In today's world, it is an off-the-shelf capability to link a database to a website in near real-time to show what is in stock or not in stock. "they're good folks, and they spend a lot of time out of the shop while guiding" Exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites