what materiel is this?

[FrequentTyer 0]

Would you mind posting a few pictures showing the method you use to achieve that sort of body with fly rite dubbing?

 

 

who would believe it if i did? + its already been done in the original picture

 

deeky may have achieved a smooth body but he didnt achieve the mottled effect so i'm not convinced

 

its a long stranded dubbing so just tie in a hank of dubbing and wrap it just like poly yarn. simple enough. give it a try with the fly rite dubbing you have on hand.

 

Ah! So you are not suggesting it be dubbed on the thread, but instead used to make a wrapped body like you would use yarn or floss. I understand now and can see how that could work. I'll have to give that a try.

[deeky 0]

OK, now that makes more sense when explained that way. Really, we are both right. Flyrite is polypropyline fibers, of which dubbing is just shorter fibers of a length of yarn that have been blended up a little (in this case, fibers of two colored yarns blended together). What you are talking about is taking the fibers, re-orienting them, tying them in bunched into a strand, and wrapping them the same as a length of yarn.

 

My process was simply the same result from the other direction. I suggested pulling fibers from a yarn such as antron or poly, mixing two colors, and wrapping them up the shank together. It just cut out the middle steps of turning the original yarn fibers into a dubbing ball and then having to re-orient them.

 

Deeky

[flytire 0]

What you are talking about is taking the fibers, re-orienting them, tying them in bunched into a strand, and wrapping them the same as a length of yarn.

 

nope!

 

just pull the long strands fibers out of the bag (the dubbing is already mottled, no mixing, pulling apart strands or orienting any strands) and tie one end of these fibers to the hook shank. now gather the fibers as you would if you were using a yarn and wrap this bundle up the hook shank just like you did with your poly yarn.

 

maybe people arent realizing that the fly rite dubbing i'm talking about comes out of the bag already mottled in different shades of olive and browns mixed together. there needs no additional mixing needed whatsoever.

 

think about the commercial fly tyer tying thse flies. he has an order for lets say 30 dozen of these flies. is this tyer going to sit down and pull apart a few strands of this color poly yarn and mix it with that color poly yarn so he can do these fly bodies. i dont think so. he is going to look for the easiest and least time consuming method to tie these flies. time = money in his pocket.

 

i'm glad you achieved the smooth body using the poly yarn or whatever you used. it is one way of tying these flies. but try to remember there is always more than one way to achieve the same results.

 

click on the attachment foto. it shows the mottling i'm talking about (its not the right color but it shows the mottling)

 

if someone would like to send me video equipment, then i just might try a video.

[TitanFlies 0]

What you are talking about is taking the fibers, re-orienting them, tying them in bunched into a strand, and wrapping them the same as a length of yarn.

 

think about the commercial fly tyer tying thse flies. he has an order for lets say 30 dozen of these flies. is this tyer going to sit down and pull apart a few strands of this color poly yarn and mix it with that color poly yarn so he can do these fly bodies. i dont think so. he is going to look for the easiest and least time consuming method to tie these flies. time = money in his pocket.

 

 

If we're talking strictly about the allotment of time, then a thread body would be the easiest, least time consuming method of making a body that gives excellent results (I can vouch).

 

Also, the passive aggressiveness in this thread is almost unbearable.

[Johny Utah 0]

I do believe the technique flytire is describing is this one.

 

 

This is a technique I rarely use, but it is a useful technique to have in your armoury. Its main use is for bodies on larger flies. This technique is only really suitable for dubbings mediums with a medium to long staple length. Mediums such as Hare’s Ear, Mole, Squirrel, Seal’s Fur, etc don’t really lend themselves to this technique.

For reference the dubbing I have used here is WCB flytying supplies “Easy Dub” a synthetic dubbing.

 

Wind the thread half way down the hook shank.

 

 

Take a wad of dubbing and pull some out, then twist the end to a point.

 

 

Then tie it in.

 

 

Now place the dubbing next to the thread.

 

 

Then pinch the dubbing and thread between your fingers. Don’t pinch too tight, you want the dubbing to feed from the wad as you wrap.

 

 

Now start wrapping. With this technique you do not twist the dubbing onto the thread. Any twisting is imparted naturally during the wrapping process.

 

 

Keep wrapping and feeding from the wad until you reach the tie-off point.

 

 

Separate the thread from the dubbing and then tie in the end of the dubbing noodle.

 

 

And that’s it, a quick and easy way to apply a larger amount of dubbing to the hook. It’s also much stronger than normal dubbing techniques.

I scrubbed this much harder than I normally would with a Velcro brush.

 

 

Had I scrubbed the same material, twist dubbed, as hard I don’t think there would have been much left!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

more: http://ukflydressing.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sbs&action=display&thread=4046#ixzz1mAojEAJu

 

 

I dont think that's the method but the easiest way to figure it out, would be to purchase one of the flies and take the blade to it. The body appears smooth enough to be an acetate floss body. But they dont float all that great.

 

[flytire 0]

sorry but thats not the technique i mentioned

 

i'll try to explain by using a couple of the photos in the link provided (why duplicate)

 

 

tie in the dubbing as shown in the photo above. advance the thread to the eye of the hook

 

 

put the dubbing in the position shown above. disregard the thread as it is at the hook eye. now just wrap the dubbing around the hook shank. do not twist the dubbing into a rope. wrap the dubbing as if it was a ribbon, not a rope. tie off dubbing when you have achieved the length of body you like.