Question About Yellowstone Regs and barbless hooks

[Dezod 0]

For those of you who regularly fish in Yellowstone National park I have a couple of questions

 

 

 

1. When they say barbless hooks does that mean barbed hooks with pinched barbs or truly barbless hooks? Also does anyone know a place to get a good price for barbless hooks? Specifically I would be interested in barbless hopper style hook (1x light, 2x long with or without a bend #8-14)

 

2. I know there is a lead ban, and I understand why, how often do people nymph, or can I get by just dry fly fishing? (I will be there with a group of non fishers. I will be there in late July early Aug, and fish mostly morning and evening after everyone has seen the sights)

 

3. Are there any favorite local patterns I just have to tie up before I go?

 

4. I will be staying in west yellowstone. I have heard about Bud Lilly's and Craig Matthew's shop, but are there any other fly shops I need to visit while I am there? I like to support local fly shops when I can.

 

 

 

Thanks for the info

 

 

 

C

[Jaydub 0]

I really need to get back there.

1. Pinched barbs are fine.

2. You can weight your nymphs with beads or lead-free wire.

3. Someone who knows better than me will answer.

4. Bob Jacklin,s, Arricks, Jim's Fly co.

[flyfishing99 0]

Caddis flies should be pretty strong as well as PMD's at that time. Check with Blue Ribbon Flies for the latest information on hatches. You will need a Park Fishing License. You can get it at any of the shops in West yellowstone:

Blue Ribbon Flies

Arricks

Jim's

Bud Lilly's

Bob Jacklin's

Madison River Outfitters

 

Good luck and have fun!!!!!!!

[NJ All Day 0]

I have a question about the lead.

 

How do they find out if you are using a fly that has lead in it?

[Dezod 0]

I don't know how they check or know, but I have heard they are serious about it. No split shot, lead ribbon, jig heads or flies tied with lead. Not just to protect the fish, but they claim it protects the waterfowl from lead poisoning. No qualms with the reg, just mant to make sure I am within the rules if I nymph.

 

 

 

C

 

 

 

 

 

I have a question about the lead.

 

How do they find out if you are using a fly that has lead in it?

[flyfishing99 0]

I have been fishing there for many years and have never been checked. However, when they do check, they are thorough. They look at your fly to check for a barb, check your license, etc.

Just carry a pincher to pinch the barb and remember to use it. In all the excitement of fishing, one can forget to check........

[Dezod 0]

Thanks 99. I crimp barbs on 99% of the flies I tie when I sit down at the bench, but occasionally I forget and then I rarely check on the water. I will make sure I crimp all the barbs before I go.

 

 

 

C

 

 

I have been fishing there for many years and have never been checked. However, when they do check, they are thorough. They look at your fly to check for a barb, check your license, etc.

Just carry a pincher to pinch the barb and remember to use it. In all the excitement of fishing, one can forget to check........

[NJ All Day 0]

It always interested me. I wonder if they test it with some type of water or chemical.

 

It's always befuddled me.

[narcodog 0]

Of all the places in W.Y. Bud Lilly's is the pits. B.R. ,Jacklin's, Arrick's and Campfire Lodge have the best assortment of tying materials. Campfire is jimsflyco, no one has more hackle then Jim.

[Jaydub 0]

It always interested me. I wonder if they test it with some type of water or chemical.

 

It's always befuddled me.

 

I don't know what they use, but if you google "lead test kit" there are a bunch out there. Just a cotton swab and a soulution that changes color if lead is present.

[FishDragon 0]

Where I fish at in the summer and fall they will just tear your fly apart to see if there is any weight added (no weighted flies allowed). Heard of a fellow fishing for bass with a foam popper and they picked it apart to see if it had any weight added to it lol.

[flytire 0]

that would be my thinking too. theyll just cut it apart. not to hard to grasp that idea and probably faster than a test kit. bet most ranger carr a knife of some sort

[planettrout 0]

This is THE Hatch Chart:

 

 

From Blue Ribbon Flies Catalog...

 

Some other shops in the area - I frequent:

 

http://troutfitters.com/

 

http://www.parksflyshop.com/

 

http://www.slideinn.com/blog/

 

http://www.beartoothflyfishing.com/localguides/index.htm

 

http://www.mrfc.com/MadisonRiverMontanaFishing/Default.aspx

 

http://bozemanangler.com/

 

http://www.gyflyfishers.com/

 

http://www.trouthunt.com/

 

...and the best place of all of them:

 

http://www.blue-ribbon-flies.com/

 

If the visit includes the Madison, around here:

 

 

...$3.00 Bridge...at that time of year...learn what EPEORUS is...

 

 

 

PT/TB

[Dustin Guyette 0]

Where I fish at in the summer and fall they will just tear your fly apart to see if there is any weight added (no weighted flies allowed). Heard of a fellow fishing for bass with a foam popper and they picked it apart to see if it had any weight added to it lol.

 

 

they shouldn't be aloud to tear your fly apart, i sure wouldn't let them do it to my flies

[Dezod 0]

Narcdog- Thanks for the info. Even just based on the web sites I have been checking out I felt the same way about some of the things you said.

 

Planetrout- That hatch chart is awesome, Thanks for the info. I too have been impressed with Blue Ribbon flies as I have been casually searching for info

 

I too assume they tear your fly apart to look for lead, and Dustin as much as I would not like to allow that from the ranger, I also would not like them to confiscate my fly boxes, potentially my rod and I think the sacrifice of one nymph to appease the park service is much better than any fine that they may slap on me.

 

 

 

Thanks again everyone for the info.

 

 

 

C