whatfly 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2012 Do you tie them, buy them, fish them, do you like them, yes / no, positive and negative aspects. Hard to tie, hard to hook fish, not durable, too delicate, etc. No, no, no, and no. Are not worth the time or effort IMHO, although I have fiddled with the patterns at the vise (none ever made it to my box, however). One exception in the future would be Hex patterns, but I have yet to hit that hatch. Love your videos, by the way, so if this is marketing research, my dislike for the method/pattern does not mean I would not be interested in a video tutorial you might produce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brant Lempke 0 Report post Posted March 18 On 6/21/2012 at 9:18 AM, utyer said: Ok, I'll start. I first started tying them 30 years ago, when I saw Bing Lemke's patterns. These patterns all used a loop of mono for a core. This loose ends were first attached to the hook, then the loop was suspended from a post by a retractor clip. There were no gallows posts in those days. Once the loop was ready, the the tails and a dubbed abdomen were wrapped around the mono. The loop was then cut off at the junction of the tails and abdomen. The wings, thorax and hackles were tied on a short shank hook in the conventional way. Bing was able to tie these patterns down to a size 22. I still tie a few, but not many these days. They are fun to tie, even if they take a little more time. I find the results are usually worth the effort estetically, and I like the overall look, the upturned bodies more closely mimic the naturals. I fish more emerging patterns or nymphs these days, so I am rarely in need of a dun pattern, and the spinners mostly lay flat on the surface so I don't find any advantage to the extended body. I have on occasion tied extended body hopper, damsel, and stone fly patterns. On these larger flies, the bodies I make are usually foam or deerhair, and are tied on a needle. I haven't as yet tried tying extended bodies on the "J" hooks. I like the ways extended body flies look and think they look and work well for larger patterns. Hi, my Dad Bing actually tied them on a size 32 hook. On 6/21/2012 at 9:18 AM, utyer said: Ok, I'll start. I first started tying them 30 years ago, when I saw Bing Lemke's patterns. These patterns all used a loop of mono for a core. This loose ends were first attached to the hook, then the loop was suspended from a post by a retractor clip. There were no gallows posts in those days. Once the loop was ready, the the tails and a dubbed abdomen were wrapped around the mono. The loop was then cut off at the junction of the tails and abdomen. The wings, thorax and hackles were tied on a short shank hook in the conventional way. Bing was able to tie these patterns down to a size 22. I still tie a few, but not many these days. They are fun to tie, even if they take a little more time. I find the results are usually worth the effort estetically, and I like the overall look, the upturned bodies more closely mimic the naturals. I fish more emerging patterns or nymphs these days, so I am rarely in need of a dun pattern, and the spinners mostly lay flat on the surface so I don't find any advantage to the extended body. I have on occasion tied extended body hopper, damsel, and stone fly patterns. On these larger flies, the bodies I make are usually foam or deerhair, and are tied on a needle. I haven't as yet tried tying extended bodies on the "J" hooks. I like the ways extended body flies look and think they look and work well for larger patterns. He then supe r glued them to the leader. Brant Lempke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brant Lempke 0 Report post Posted March 18 Hi, I just wanted to tell you that my Dad Bing, tied extended body flies on size 32 hooks. He would then super glue them on the leader. Fooling the fish worked well, however, landing them was a toss up! Thanks, Brant Lempke.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites