Johnwvan 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2012 I have lots of CDC and wanted to do some mayfly loop wing emergers. What major hatches would use this pattern. Is there somewhere I can get colors of body, tail, loop wing for each hatch?---Thanks---John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utyer 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 I usually tie my emergers with the tails and abdomens to match the nymph. Then use dubbing that matches the emerging dun in the thorax. The CDC colors you would use of course would match the wings of the dun. I usually use pheasant tail for the abdomen on PMDs then shades of olive tan and yellow for the thorax, Most of my wings would just be white. To match a baetis hatch I would still use pheasant tail for the abdomen, then different shades of olive for the thorax. The wings on these would be gray. My match for a Quill Gordon emerger would use the darkest goose quill or turkey tail for the abdomen. The thorax would be a slightly lighter gray with gray CDC wings. A western Green Drake emerger I tie uses a dark olive brown dubbing for the abdomen, A bright olive for the thorax, with dark gray or black CDC. A Hendrickson emerger would used a darker tan dubbed abdomen ribbed with dark brown thread. The thorax would be a lighter tan the wings would be gray CDC The Blue Quill emerger would used gray goose fibers for the abdomen, lighter gray for the thorax, and gray CDC. Cahills I would tie a light tan abdomen, with a cream thorax and white CDC. I don't tie any emerger for the Gray Drakes (they mostly crawl out on rocks to hatch.) In tying any of my emergers, I always vary the shades in the abdomen a little. PMDs can be quite different from stream to stream light olive, to tan with hints of yellow orange or pink depending on where they hatch. The same with baetis hatches, they won't all be just one shade of darker olive, some will have a little brown in them, and some are more gray. Thats the way I do emergers, its just my way, and there are lots of different ways to do these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnwvan 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 Thank You! Excellent sounding patterns.I am guessing I also wouldn't need an Isonchia emerger as they too crawl out to emerge although I have seen a lot of Isonchia emerger patterns. Some say they do both depending on water conditions? Thanks again for the help.---John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utyer 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 Gray Drake is the common name of the Isonichia, and I don't think it would be all that necessary. What part of the country are you in? The important hatches differ between the east, and west. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnwvan 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 East---New England. The Gray Drake here is Siphlonurus quebbecensis and the Isonchia I am familiar with is the Isonychia Bicolor, Leadwing Coachman or better known to me as the White Gloved Howdy.---John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utyer 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 Your right, the Isonychia is locally known as the "Slate Drake" or Mahogany Dun in Pa. I have a different western fly that I call a mahogany dun, so I use the Slate Drake for the Isonychia. Your Gray Drake could of course be imitated with an emerger. I have more success with emergers when fishing a lot of hatches. Of course, I tend to fish them much more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnwvan 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 I was in Pa 2 weekends ago. Was in Allentown when I had to make a U turn, ended up turning into Little Lehigh River catch and release area! I had no idea it was there, just shorts and flip flops, on my way with the wife to do some touring of Lancaster and Valley Forge. How is that river to fish? I was looking at coming back to Pa this fall and trying my luck.Is there more catch and release areas on that river or in that area? Thanks---John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites