dawgvet 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 After a recent trip fishing over selective fish, I'm thinking I need to start fishing more emergers. What are your favorite emerger patterns for either caddis or mayflies? Fish them in the film or just below surface? Recipes are great but with just a name I can look up how to tie it. Thanks Jed Green Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fshflys 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 My best producing emerger is a pattern given to me by Mas Okui, an 80 something yr old gentleman known as "The Master of Hot Creek". It is tied with Elk Hair, the tips pointing over the eye of the hook. the body can be either dubbing of choice/color or biot, color to match. When I tie it with a biot, I like to use a bit of CDC dubbing as a collar. NO TAIL, with a tail, I find the fly will sometimes lay on it's side, without, it ride with it's butt down in the water. Apply floatant to the Elk Hair only. I don't have a picture of one butsomethin similar would be http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/details.cfm?parentID=144, just substitute Elk Hair for the CDC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebrant10 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 For Bwo emergers i really like a size 18 or 20 curved caddis hook with microfibbet tails, olive beaver dubbing, and a blue dun cdc puff comming out from just behind the hook eye. I tie this with the puff sticking up and facing away from the hook. They work well, and muskrat fur can be used as a substitue for cdc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planettrout 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 Hands down for Mayflies...Tracy Petersen's "Bat Wing" Emerger...change the color of the body and the wing and it may be adapted to match almost any Mayfly...Here is a variant for Fall BWO/BAETIS: SAPHIRE BAT WING EMERGER – BWO/GRAY…Tracy Petersen/Variant… HOOK: Daiichi 1130, TMC 2487, #18 – #22 THREAD: Tiemco 16/0, Gray TAIL: Mallard Flank Natural (darker fibers) ABDOMEN: Working thread RIB: Micro Flashabou, Pearl – coat abdomen with S.H.A.N or hard as Hull after ribbing WING CASE: 6-8 strands of Royal Blue Krystal Flash – coat with UV Knotsense, Clear Goo or 5 min. Epoxy after pulling over wing WING: Fluffy fibers at the base of a Dun Hen Neck feather – tied in convex side up THORAX: Nature’s Spirit Emergence Dubbing, Trilobal Antron, # 16. Muskrat Gray It may be fished from the bottom of the water column to just under the surface film... PT/TB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 I like to fish in the film when baetis species are out. I've found caddis swim quickly up and crawl out to emerge. So I fish a nymph with quick pulls to mimick that or just fish a dry fly to mimick the adult caddis. I haven't found a fly sitting in the film as effective in a caddis hatch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 rs2 by rim chung http://www.rs2fly.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrout58 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 After a recent trip fishing over selective fish, I'm thinking I need to start fishing more emergers. What are your favorite emerger patterns for either caddis or mayflies? Fish them in the film or just below surface? Recipes are great but with just a name I can look up how to tie it. Thanks Jed Green The Quigley Cripple! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 My best producing emerger is a pattern given to me by Mas Okui, an 80 something yr old gentleman known as "The Master of Hot Creek". It is tied with Elk Hair, the tips pointing over the eye of the hook. the body can be either dubbing of choice/color or biot, color to match. When I tie it with a biot, I like to use a bit of CDC dubbing as a collar. NO TAIL, with a tail, I find the fly will sometimes lay on it's side, without, it ride with it's butt down in the water. Apply floatant to the Elk Hair only. I don't have a picture of one butsomethin similar would be http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/details.cfm?parentID=144, just substitute Elk Hair for the CDC. Sounds a bit like Bob Wyatt's Deer Hair Emerger http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/101804fotw.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fshflys 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Sounds a bit like Bob Wyatt's Deer Hair Emerger http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/101804fotw.php Close, but the tips of the Elk Hair stick out over the eye of the hook, even more so than in pic # 1. Also Elk is a better floater which translates to using less & shorter. I use bleached Elk, easier to see on the water. I tie them from 16 (PMD) down to 20. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatfly 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Sounds a bit like Bob Wyatt's Deer Hair Emerger http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/101804fotw.php Close, but the tips of the Elk Hair stick out over the eye of the hook, even more so than in pic # 1. Also Elk is a better floater which translates to using less & shorter. I use bleached Elk, easier to see on the water. I tie them from 16 (PMD) down to 20. Curious, is it tied with the hair all the way around the hook like a Tenkara style fly? Something like what Davie McPhail tries here: To the OP, can't go wrong with the Quigley Cripple & the E/C Caddis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fshflys 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Curious, is it tied with the hair all the way around the hook like a Tenkara style fly? Something like what Davie McPhail tries here: To the OP, can't go wrong with the Quigley Cripple & the E/C Caddis. No, Elk only on top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fshflys 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Here's a link to instructions, I believe they have called it a Hot Creek Emerger, it's a PDF, page 11. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Here's a link to instructions, I believe they have called it a Hot Creek Emerger, it's a PDF, page 11. Link is missing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 google found this regarding hat creek emerger http://www.sandiegoflyfishers.com/BackIssues/Fin%20Facts%20Jan%2006arc.pdf page 10-11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBPatt 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2012 For caddis, I like Craig Mathews Iris Caddis Walt Weise's variation, the Clacka Caddis and Hans' CDC & Elk Regards, Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites