Piker20 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Ahh Piker20 the great false beard or collar hackle debate, depends on where you fish them i guess, full collars for faster water and bigger flies, around the size 8's i like the false beard. Anyone else have an opinion on this? I think where you are using a soft feather it is going to sweep back and be no more bulky than the arctic fox you are using. On smaller flies id agree the collar hackle might be too bulky and hold the wing too high. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyFishin Fool 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 tried to copy a streamer I saw at Orvis. Then tried to apply the same techniques to the clouser which I love tying and fishing here in Missouri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rolsen 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Ahh Piker20 the great false beard or collar hackle debate, depends on where you fish them i guess, full collars for faster water and bigger flies, around the size 8's i like the false beard. Anyone else have an opinion on this? I think where you are using a soft feather it is going to sweep back and be no more bulky than the arctic fox you are using. On smaller flies id agree the collar hackle might be too bulky and hold the wing too high. False hackle usually looks purely awesome and it has its uses, esp. in smaller wets. Instead of fox, a very sparse bunch of white tipped squirrel can be used, it supports the "weak" mallard very nicely. And, when tied sparse, it ain't even visible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rolsen 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 One from yesterday - Kiffe Didn't have any yellow mallard, so used teal instead. Have to say that using duck quills is million times easier than these feathers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crackaig 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 When you use Photobcket don't use the link with the "img" tags but the "Direct Link". Above on the tool bars you'll find a "Image" tool on the bottom row (between the "Link" tools and the "Code tools <>". Click that and paste the direct link in there. Cheers, C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wavey1988 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 So far today. I've tied: Heavy PT nymph variation And: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Patterson 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Here's a #18 Higa's SOS tied up for an off-board swap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyFishin'Jam 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Thanks for the info Piker20 and rolsen. Interesting, seen a few patterns around using both techniques, in particular the variations of the blue charm i have seen it done either way usually the 8's and 10's done falsely. A pattern that uses arctic fox under the tented mallard or goose slips is the 'Michelle' i believe a Le Blanc pattern? And may have been where i got the idea. One other idea i have been messing with and saw on a Davie Mcphail video is double tented wings, these seem a lot more solid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rolsen 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 One other idea i have been messing with and saw on a Davie Mcphail video is double tented wings, these seem a lot more solid. I use double mallard on Furnace Brown salmon fly, they give nice support to the fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Yeah Jam I would want to use my fox in a more prominent place and not loose it under the wings. I like it under hair wings but more solid wings just hides it too much IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rolsen 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Couple'o Edson's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rolsen 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Color scheme is from neighbour town's ice hockey team logo: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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FishDragon 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Great looking nymphs Doru_Sibiu Love the flys to the far right with the hot spot behind the beads. They look great!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crackaig 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2013 Some traditional wets. Cheers, C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites