Noggin10 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Does anyone have experience fishing for them? They aren't the same as common carp, therefore none of the common carp flies seem to work for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCream 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Very ironic, I was seconds away from posting a question about grass carp flies. So I will ask here! Does anyone have anything they use specifically for them? I have a few ideas to try. I saw some huge ones last summer/spring and want to get latched onto one this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 here in UK grass carp will take ALL baits common carp do. But they are much more picky, baits need to be smaller, they don't eat weeds anymore than other carp species which led to lots of disappointed fishery owners here. Small dries, nymphs like PTN or GRHE would be my go to. But if they are in the wild, the fly line being cast will quickly spook them. In a book by John Wilson, he says " the truth is that grass carp are timid when stocked in a fishery with king carp and they always get to the bait last." He recommends all the same food baits as for common carp, so I would say scale down your flies, aim for surface baits where you can, be v.quiet and avoid areas where other more aggressive feeders are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocco 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Amur River variety were stocked in local lakes which since have been stripped clean of flora. They have been seen taking overhahning grasses off the shore. In mid summer they also go airborne every once in a while for no apparent reason. The loss of cover has hurt the panfish and bass fishing a lot. I have spooked them while spin casting UL baits for bass in the shallows. The wake was nuke sub like. One guy on the lake fishes them all time and uses very light weight fly rods and has several very light leader records for big specimen. There are no snags and the runs are almost tarpon like. He has a method going for him. He feeds them off his dock with fish kibble each evening and they line up like dogs at their bowls at feeding time. His grass carp special is a bit of foam lashed to a hook and dyed brown-kibble. Rocco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Yep dog biscuits glued on a hook common bait this side of the pond. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kudu 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 The catfish in my ponds, 20lbs plus, are trained the very same way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odaon 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2013 In my area, getting them on the fly is usually very hard. I think the first thing I would try would be cottonwood seed flies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rich mc Report post Posted February 15, 2013 i read of anglers using green tomatoes for them in california. trick was to let it drift to them as they were sunning on a light bobber. so maybe a green fly dipped in tomato for scent . rich mc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgflyfish 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2013 Used to fish for them in commercial fishing pond here in SG with raw tapioca slices...not too sure if they will take flies though, a rather timid fish and spook easily..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullship 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2013 The only way i know to catch them consistently is chumming. I'm not a chummer, so I busted my ass for a looooong time to catch a few. They were all caught on small olive carp flies. I only had one come anywhere close to a real eat(like a common would eat)...the others were practically snagged in the mouth. I do think that cottonwood seed flies, mulberry flies, etc. would work really well if they are keyed into naturals or are looking up. I never had that happen once, ever, personally. Drop a mulberry fly on a grass carps head when there isn't a mulberry tree and see what happens. My vote is to find some commons and stick with them! They fight better anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullship 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2013 I changed my mind. Try eggs. Unweighted eggs. I'm moving back to grass carp country pretty soon and this will be my tactic. Truly....eggs. Magical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites