Piker20 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 Has anyone experienced fish coming unstuck on these hooks or similar bend hooks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 only if I lose tension on the line Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyFishin'Jam 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 or if the fish jumps 6ft in the air and shakes it free, i think you may be treading carefully towards the great up and down eye vs straight eye debate. In experience i never found it an issue, fish come loose on gamakatsu octopus hooks too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 I'm trying to avoid the up eye straight eye pit. This was more about the short point, special bend on the hooks. I've heard some say the same about salar hooks too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank G. Swarner III 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 I have a lot of confidence in them especially when the barb is crushed. Not so much with the barb intact. Same with the Blue Heron Hooks by Dave McNeese and other hooks that have a similar shape. Crushed barb gets better penetration and seems to hold better during the fight. I've definitely lost fish on them, but I don't think it was the fault of the hook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Can I ask what you crushed the barb with? And then are you sharpening the hook. I use a rounded non toothed plied to do trout hooks but it was suggested this might weaken a Salar or AJ and thepoint snaps off? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank G. Swarner III 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Small needle nose pliers with flat/smooth jaws. I use another flat nose plier as well and the nose is about a 1/4" wide. I haven't had a problem with the point breaking but I typically use size 1.5 AJ hooks. I try to use just enough pressure to get the barb bend. I don't sharpen the hook initially. If it gets dull during fishing then I will will sharpen it a tad so it is "sticky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyFishin'Jam 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Where i fish there is no need to be barbless so often i just can't be assed, a load of water is however single barbless and in north america we have no issue with spey style hooks, i know it may be a bit different from doubles or trebles but for releasing fish it is great. Here is one i got the other day on a 1.5 gold AJ (Grey Heron Fly), as u can see it wasn't going anywhere. These fish are quick, i think i broke my tippet twice on them and i was running 10lb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites