bassmaster876 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 can anyone give me any names for good pike and steelhead flies, or any videos for either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocco 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Try Youtube but set aside a week or so to digest the results. Rocco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 There's a forum on this site that's dedicated to Steelhead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fish For Life 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Honestly to me you don't need a pattern for pike flys. Be creative and have fun, with pike flys you cant go wrong as long as it flashy and has movement, have fun and get tying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Rock native 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Agreeing with Fish for Life as pike flies can be very basic. Personally, I think bi-colored flies with light and dark contrast are most productive. the major retailer online catalogs will give you plenty of ideas. Here is a short list of easy to tie patterns, colors are your choice, but red/white are go-to,: Blanton's Flashtail Whistler Clousers Deceivers Prince of Pikes Anything by Derrick Roethermal (See Flytiers pages at Han's W. new site, not suggesting all are simple to tie) Pink Wonders (Steve Schullery is a major advocate of this one for dozens of species, and correct as applied to trout per my "research." There is also a forum topic on pike flies with recent posts and nice photos that began in April 2013, I think. Cannot help with the Steelies, wish I could but I have not had opportunity to pursue any so have not tied for them. Good luck and have fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Rock native 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 And I should have said anything by Barry Reynold's too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassmaster876 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2013 what do you guys think about this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2013 Definately work if a pike sees it. The marabou won't last too long with toothy critters. A long tail of angel hair or similar moves well and last a bit longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Rock native 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2013 Bassmaster 876, I agree with Piker20, I think it will be a fishcatcher. Pike flies with Marabou and Rabbit have great movement but get chewed easily, while synthetics are more durable-although they may cost more and may sacrifice some movement. It is a balancing game. Personally, I am liking synthetics combined with salt yak hair for many of my own, because when the pike are on the bite they are very aggressive and a small loss of movement seems irrelevant, and rabbit can get hard to cast when soaked, IMHO. The Prince of Pikes with yak added is a model I prefer. In 2014 I will see if the local tiger Muskies agree, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tidewaterfly 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2013 bassmaster876, that will work, but you might want to add a slightly over sized collar of webby saddle or schlappen which will give it a bit larger profile & push more water without adding much additional weight. What you've tied will catch some fish, but IMO might be a bit too slim to entice the larger fish. I agree with the others too about the use of flash & synthetics. They will be more durable than the marabou, but if you don't mind tying additional flies more often, the marabou is a good choice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucaseabass 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2013 I realize a few patterns that help me to catch mostly of my pike, to these link you can find the flies I consider the most alluring: Jungle Pike EP Yellow Roach Ciao Luca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassmaster876 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2013 in the case of the marabou situation what material do you guys recamend i use for pike flies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fish For Life 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2013 in the case of the marabou situation what material do you guys recamend i use for pike flies? My favorite for pike flys is buck-tail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Rock native 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2013 in the case of the marabou situation what material do you guys recamend i use for pike flies? There are a tremendous number of options, so many that I think my best advice is to check out feather-craft.com's listing of body materials both natural and synthetic, which should give you some ideas. There is also a synthetic called pseudo-marabou and I have some but have not tested it. Don't totally refrain from using marabou, you may need it in very clear waters. Natural marabou is a fabulous material but it's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness because it has great motion simply because the feathers are delicate. I use marabou in some pike flies for this reason knowing full well that they will get poor mileage and will need to be replaced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Rock native 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2013 in the case of the marabou situation what material do you guys recamend i use for pike flies? There are a tremendous number of options, so many that I think my best advice is to check out feather-craft.com's listing of body materials both natural and synthetic, which should give you some ideas. There is also a synthetic called pseudo-marabou and I have some but have not tested it. Don't totally refrain from using marabou, you may need it in very clear waters. Natural marabou is a fabulous material but it's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness because it has great motion simply because the feathers are delicate. I use marabou in some pike flies for this reason knowing full well that they will get poor mileage and will need to be replaced. and the bucktail recommendation is a good one. Mepps and others have been using bucktail on some spinner models longer than I have been alive and I am getting pretty old.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites