Post your Scud fly patterns

[Simplejack 0]

I found these little flies fun to tie and there is so many ways to tie them. Lets see your Scuds!

 

Here's mine I just tied a few minutes ago. It's one of my favorite looking flies I have tied so far.

 

TMC 206BL Size 16. Veevus Size 10/0 Thread

 

 

[Crackaig 0]

Here is a really simple way to tie quick scud patterns. I did this in white as that was what was asked for at the time. You can use any colour you like. If you don't want the bead leave it off and continue the dubbing to the head.

The first operation is the fiddly one. With your bead (if you are using one) on the hook tie on the scud back (whatever one you are using). Magic Shrimp Foil is good for this technique. Tie it forward of the eye

Whip finish and trim your thread out.

Push the bead into place (if you...) If you want additional weight add it now.

Restart the thread behind the bead.

Cover any additional weight, and run your thread to the back of the body. Catch in a good length of wire on the way.

Dub your body. Don't worry about getting it tight, or shaping the noodle, just bang it on. Wind to the back of the bead (or head if you...)

Whip finish the thread. Add a drop of head cement if you are paranoid about the whip finish.

 

Pull the Scud Back back over bead (If...) and body. trap it down with a couple of turns of the wire.

 

Take the wire forward to rib down the shell back. At the bead (If...) or head finish the wire with a couple of half hitches and a drop of head cement.

Worry off the wire, and trim out the excess scud back .

Pick out the dubbing as required. Go fishing.

 

If you are tying a few of these here is a tip. Once you have formed the body of the first one undo it and measure the length of dubbed thread against a card. Mark the length. Also write the fly details on the card. When you tie the next one measure the dubbing using the card and it will be the same as the first.

Cheers,

C.

[sculpinmaster 0]

I generally use Steve Thornton's shrimp pattern.

 

 

And also Oliver Edwards shrimp too.

 

[tctrout 0]

Here's one that works real well on Spring Creek in Central PA. This pattern has been popularized and modified by a number of individuals, and the body material can vary. It's the Utah Killer Bug, and a very effective pattern

TC

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJiB8Z_EPW8

[Simplejack 0]

Here's one that works real well on Spring Creek in Central PA. This pattern has been popularized and modified by a number of individuals, and the body material can vary. It's the Utah Killer Bug, and a very effective pattern

TC

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJiB8Z_EPW8

 

 

That is more like a larva/maggot then a scud.

[JohnP 0]

If you put weight on a curved scud hook, the fly will ride upside down. What Phil Rowley refers to as the keel effect. Better to tie weighted scuds on a straight hook. Beads on curved hooks, with no added underbody weight, will ride OK.

[Nick Williams 0]

I haven't ever thought about the keel effect on scuds. I tie all mine with beads, no other weight. But that makes sense, I also like the scud bodies that are pre-shaped weights, but now they don't sound like such a good idea.

[SilverCreek 0]

Swimming scuds are straight and not curved when they swim. Tied on straight hooks, they catch fish just fine.

 

"First of all, swimming scuds, the kind fish are likely to see, are as straight as a needle and only curl up into the typical scud fly profile when they are crawling around on something."

 

http://www.flyline.com/entomology/scuds/

 

 

" Fly fishers need to imitate moving scuds darting through the water in an outstretched manner. Only their tail area or telsun hangs down. Curved scuds are dead, resting or feeding. Pronounced curved pattern profiles should be avoided."

 

http://www.flycraftangling.com/index.asp?p=123

 

 

Swimming scud video

 

 

[JasonJones 0]

I've tied and fished scuds both ways, they both catch fish just fine.

 

Anyone that says "Pronounced curved pattern profiles should be avoided" should maybe get out and fish more, and push "theory" less...

 

Also the bit about the keel effect, I actually have had more success on my heavily weighted "keel effect" scuds than other patterns I've tied and used. My thoughts on it is that my fly is hung up less in the grasses and moss on the rocks of which I'm drifting through, so while my fly might be upsidedown and curved its getting longer, and better drifts down in the salad where the real bugs live, not 2ft off the bottom in the wide open water. My hook points stay sharper as well not having to bounce off rocks constantly.

 

I heavily weight my scuds with 3 or more layers of lead stacked on the scud curved hook shank.

 

A wide strip of flash under the shower curtain stripped for the scud back, mono rib... The shower curtain has a nice pattern on it.

 

I've had great luck with these 3 colors the most... Orange, Pink and Gray.

 

...of course, that's my opinion on the subject and I'm no expert. I'd rather fish than write "rules" for tying or fishing.... lol