Fishing With A Guide

[kimjensen 0]

I don't get the thing about tipping. Why should I when I payed for the service? Same with taxi and restaurants. The meal cost 30$, why should I give an extra 10?

Same with a contractor. Man that wall looks straight, you deserve an extra 5 gran. :-)

[shoebop 0]

I don't get the thing about tipping. Why should I when I payed for the service? Same with taxi and restaurants. The meal cost 30$, why should I give an extra 10?

Same with a contractor. Man that wall looks straight, you deserve an extra 5 gran. :-)

I bet you don't understand giving birthday gifts either. Why give someone a gift for being born? Or how about Christmas gifts or graduation gifts or wedding gifts?

 

Gifts (tips) are expressions of gratitude (thus the word gratuity) or affection for the recipient. Not so much for what they have done as much as who they are and to encourage them to do and be more.

 

When working in the service industries, it is easy to be "put off" by the behavior of many people in society that one deals with on a daily basis. Recieving a kindness (monetarily or otherwise) in response to your efforts is always a plus and sometimes tilts the balances enough to make you believe your efforts are appreciated and worthwhile. I do not work in the service industry. I started out as a carpenter and later became a contractor. Recieving a tip was rarely heard of in my buisness but on a few occasions, I was offered a tip (bonus) truly was appreciated. The gift is always a reflection of the character of the giver more than the service of the recipient. Kindness and appreciation are the keys.

[breambuster 0]

I'm not sure about taxi drivers, etc, but people need to remember that waiters and waitresses are paid a LOT less than minimum wage and they depend on tips to get them up to somewhere in the minimum wage range. If they were paid minimum wage, then you would be paying a LOT more for your meal in the restaurant. Also, the word "Tip" comes from an old phrase "To Insure Promptness." And so a tip is to reward the waiter or waitress for giving good service. If they provide good service, a 15% tip will usually get them up to around minimum wage. If they REALLY provide lousy service, then less than 15% is in order. But waiters & waitresses are people too. Sometimes they don't feel well. The customer before you may have chewed them out for something that wasn't even their fault, like "this steak is tough!" Etc. The waiter or waitress has no control over whether or not your steak is tough. They just bring it to you once it is cooked. And I have also seen people in restaurants who were real jerks who chewed out the waitress or waiter just because the customer was having a bad day & came in ill & out of sorts. So be polite, leave a tip.

[kimjensen 0]

I don't get the thing about tipping. Why should I when I payed for the service? Same with taxi and restaurants. The meal cost 30$, why should I give an extra 10?

Same with a contractor. Man that wall looks straight, you deserve an extra 5 gran. :-)

I bet you don't understand giving birthday gifts either. Why give someone a gift for being born? Or how about Christmas gifts or graduation gifts or wedding gifts?

 

Gifts (tips) are expressions of gratitude (thus the word gratuity) or affection for the recipient. Not so much for what they have done as much as who they are and to encourage them to do and be more.

 

When working in the service industries, it is easy to be "put off" by the behavior of many people in society that one deals with on a daily basis. Recieving a kindness (monetarily or otherwise) in response to your efforts is always a plus and sometimes tilts the balances enough to make you believe your efforts are appreciated and worthwhile. I do not work in the service industry. I started out as a carpenter and later became a contractor. Recieving a tip was rarely heard of in my buisness but on a few occasions, I was offered a tip (bonus) truly was appreciated. The gift is always a reflection of the character of the giver more than the service of the recipient. Kindness and appreciation are the keys.

Come on.... Really? You know what... I'm gonna shake my head at the personal attack and move on.

[spinninBugs 0]

I don't get the thing about tipping. Why should I when I payed for the service? Same with taxi and restaurants. The meal cost 30$, why should I give an extra 10?

Same with a contractor. Man that wall looks straight, you deserve an extra 5 gran. :-)

 

This is a very arrogant statement! Servers at restaurants rely on tips to make a living...if you don't want to tip someone for waiting on you then you need to eat at home my man! Now that that is out of the way, there are a lot of personal expenses being a guide, the fly shop doesn't pay for anything but the license... a guide has to have his own boat, his own rods, his own flies, has to buy and prepare the clients food and pays for the transportation. This is just my two cents.

[Steeldrifter 0]

Let's keep it civil gentlemen, you guys know we do not allow insults/nor anything such as personal attacks here like other sites do.

[kimjensen 0]

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'll bet none of us sends a check to the poor Chinese for making a good iPhone or pay the flower dealer extra for choosing the nicest rose out of the bunch. When you buy a quality Cape, would you say that's at least 50$ more worth, here you go?

[williamhj 0]

Kim I hope you saw the post by Breambuster above. As he said, those in restaurants get an hourly wage lower than minimum wage and depend on the tips. Tips create an incentive for them to give good service. Perhaps they could be paid the full wage hourly but your food would cost more. As for other professions I'm not sure how the wages work but my guess is that if the other jobs stopped getting tips then prices would rise.

[troutguy 0]

Tipping is cultural gang. Denmark does not tip generally. There are many sites you can see this yourself. Having had children who worked in restaurants while in school there were many nationalities you did not want to wait on, even groups of people within the US.

[Li'lDave 0]

Interesting question, we typically don't tip in Australia. The cost of guiding can vary, and unless invited I wouldn't expect a guide to fish as well as me.

 

I have had three experiences with guides.

 

1. bait fishing and using metal slices in the bay around wrecks and other structure, with a lot of our catch coming home with us for dinner.

2. bait fishing in a small estuary system with two other customers and the guide. This was awesome.. $200 for half a day, and he and I went fishing together a couple of afternoons later for no charge, flicking lures about.

 

and 3. a saltwater flyfishing guide in the northern territory. Again he was great, but at $750 for the day he'd want to work hard . He picked me up from the hotel at 430am, and dropped me back again at about 430pm. Tides were all wrong, but he was good enough to put me on to fish.

 

I haven't fished with a trout guide (and paid for it) so unfortunately I can't offer any advice there. I was lucky enough to be guided by a good mate on one of Tasmania's trophy trout streams on my first attempt at brown trout on fly....

[kimjensen 0]

I can't say how it works in your country (US) with minimum wages or below minimum wages. I see it as a government issue to secure their people income, but if I'm not mistaken you guys don't like your government to be interfering with your personal life?

Bottom line, if your not satisfied with your income, then there might be other jobs out there?

 

When I go to a restaurant or whatever, I see the price at the card and I expect to pay that price. If they want tip, then include it in the price.

The same thing with traveling "wow the train arrived at time, I better pay extra" No! I expect to pay the price listed on the catalog.

 

About guides. I don't feel sorry for them. They choosed to be guides and whatever cost expenses they might personally have, it's not my problem as a client to worry about that.

[JSzymczyk 0]

if I'm not mistaken you guys don't like your government to be interfering with your personal life?

Bottom line, if your not satisfied with your income, then there might be other jobs out there?

 

 

About guides. I don't feel sorry for them. They choosed to be guides and whatever cost expenses they might personally have, it's not my problem as a client to worry about that.

 

ROCK ON BROTHER!!

 

Come visit any summer and we'll use my kayaks, I'll put you on some good smallmouth bass, and not even charge you a fee!!

 

While I don't agree with everything you've said (I don't have a problem tipping a good waiter in a feed mill, for instance, because I know that 90% of managers in those joints are @$$holes and 99% of wait staff are looking for better jobs) you scored an X-ring hit with your statements above.

[shoebop 0]

I don't get the thing about tipping. Why should I when I payed for the service? Same with taxi and restaurants. The meal cost 30$, why should I give an extra 10?

Same with a contractor. Man that wall looks straight, you deserve an extra 5 gran. :-)

I bet you don't understand giving birthday gifts either. Why give someone a gift for being born? Or how about Christmas gifts or graduation gifts or wedding gifts?

 

Gifts (tips) are expressions of gratitude (thus the word gratuity) or affection for the recipient. Not so much for what they have done as much as who they are and to encourage them to do and be more.

 

When working in the service industries, it is easy to be "put off" by the behavior of many people in society that one deals with on a daily basis. Recieving a kindness (monetarily or otherwise) in response to your efforts is always a plus and sometimes tilts the balances enough to make you believe your efforts are appreciated and worthwhile. I do not work in the service industry. I started out as a carpenter and later became a contractor. Recieving a tip was rarely heard of in my buisness but on a few occasions, I was offered a tip (bonus) truly was appreciated. The gift is always a reflection of the character of the giver more than the service of the recipient. Kindness and appreciation are the keys.

Come on.... Really? You know what... I'm gonna shake my head at the personal attack and move on.

Kim-

I understand how you might take my post personally but I surely didn't mean to single you out. There may be others out there who feel the same way as you do about this issue and it was those people as well that I had in mind. You just happened to be the one that stuck your neck out on this. I don't want to make any enemies but I do want to make society a kinder place for all of us. Tipping is a kind thing to do for those whose business it is make the public their business. I hope we can still be friends.

[kimjensen 0]

if I'm not mistaken you guys don't like your government to be interfering with your personal life?

Bottom line, if your not satisfied with your income, then there might be other jobs out there?

 

 

About guides. I don't feel sorry for them. They choosed to be guides and whatever cost expenses they might personally have, it's not my problem as a client to worry about that.

ROCK ON BROTHER!!

 

Come visit any summer and we'll use my kayaks, I'll put you on some good smallmouth bass, and not even charge you a fee!!

 

While I don't agree with everything you've said (I don't have a problem tipping a good waiter in a feed mill, for instance, because I know that 90% of managers in those joints are @$$holes and 99% of wait staff are looking for better jobs) you scored an X-ring hit with your statements above.

I might end up doing that :-)

It's okay not to agree with me. I have an opinion and others have theirs and that's fine. However there might be some language barrier that can lead to misunderstanding. I have no problem with paying for what it cost, I have a problem with if people feel entitled to be tipped. But this might very well be cultural difference.

[phg 0]

You don't tip in France, either. It's considered demeaning.