barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 Whats wrong with that cape? It looks like it has really nice barring. The barring looks ok, but I really don't have anything to compare it to. But it's not as dense as other "Whiting" capes that I have purchased from Fly Shops in Whiting packaging ihangten you have the cape that I would like and I thought I paid for. I really didn't intend to knock this supplier, but I simply replied to a question from the OP. Despite my experience , like so many guides I'm not the best fly tier in the world, but I do no how to catch fish and I think I know a good cape when I see one. So I'm done with this thread, if feather emporium wants to put it right they can contact me via a PM. Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 You mean to tell me that after your 50 plus years of experience you like that Metz cape better? Why, and is that your idea of a cree? No, I don't think the Metz is better, I just put it up for comparison and to show how it's marked to show it's genuine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Roberts 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 John F, I looked into your order this morning. You ordered 3 Whiting hen capes. A silver badger, brown, and black at $25 each. The PayPal payment was for $75 and no shipping was charged. Free shipping is for US orders, and as is clearly stated on my home page, there is a link for paying the shipping on international orders. I sent you two separate invoices for $9.55, one on Dec 23rd and the other March 3rd. Neither have been paid as of today. You state that you are out $90. I can't find the other $15. Is this a payment you made for shipping or something else? If so, did you use a different PayPal email address? Please let me know what happened here so that I can resolve this today. I have never received a separate invoice for shipping. If I had I would have gladly paid it. I noticed on the original PayPal receipt there were no shipping charges and was expecting some kind of a notification about it. Funny how in the email I posted previously you were shipping "later today". The $90 bucks you can look at as my mistake, exchange on the dollar, etc brought up the $75 to a hair under $90 CND. This whole deal is not sitting well with me, could you please refund my money? Thanks. Done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Roberts 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 Sorry, but this guy is buying in bulk, cheap and reselling at premium prices. I'm amazed that Whiting didn't respond to me email about the matter. The price was expensive, the product of poor quality and the packing looked like something from a porn store..... Sure sounds to me like your trying your best to "slam" me. No problem, I can take it. If I make a mistake, I'll be the first to admit it. But that's not going to happen here and I don't think others are feeling that I'm in the wrong either. Non the less, your not happy with the quality or the bag or whatever. So again, please send it back for a full refund. That's the best I can offer. As I mentioned earlier, I do a lot of fly fishing shows each year. Last year a tier came up to me and said that my site was "porn for feather junkies". And now this. My packaging looks like something from a porn store? Just what types of bags do they use at porn stores anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Dave, you just don't know when to quit. Send me a premium cree cape and I'll send back the old one. If you don't know that porn stores send stuff in plain packaging then you must live in the state of Indiana. You protest too much rather than admit your marketing and customer service is crap. Flame me all you like I'm done with this one Hope it works out for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Dave, you just don't know when to quit. Send me a premium cree cape and I'll send back the old one. If you don't know that porn stores send stuff in plain packaging then you must live in the state of Indiana. You protest too much rather than admit your marketing and customer service is crap. Flame me all you like I'm done with this one Hope it works out for you How many times has he said he's done with this thread now?! XD LMFAO Dave, I've ordered a few things from you and I can honestly say I plan on buying from you in the future. I love your return policy, and the free shipping. I've not had bad expirience a with quality or wait time. Keep on keepin on. Best of luck to you in your business, and at those shows. Bronc. -a happy and soon to be return customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wschmitt3 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 David - I think the guy at the show was saying that the selection of feathers and all of the pictures of the feathers was arousing. I think that the "something from a porn store" comment was intended to say that the packaging was unmarked or plain packaging as in the "discreetly packaged" deliveries that contain things people don't want others to find about about. No one blames you for not getting it. Barry - What online retailer have you ever known to send out a replacement product before they got the original item back? Thats just plain unreasonable. Pretty much the only thing I don't buy online is food and I have never demanded or expected that a business I purchased something from send me a new item before I send in the item I was not satisfied with and I dont think any one would fulfill that demand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatfly 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Dave, you just don't know when to quit. [snip] Barry, sure sounds like you are completely hung up on get packaging to prove that what you have is "genuine", kind of like the kids these days that wear hats with the original label still on it, just to prove what they have. If you want a premium cape, pay the premium price...oh yeah, and wait a LONG time until one become available. Seems to me that Dave has made every effort to make right on the purchase, and you have refused all reasonable responses. Heck, I'll give you what you paid for the cape if you are so very unhappy with it. Just PM me if interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Last year a tier came up to me and said that my site was "porn for feather junkies". And now this. My packaging looks like something from a porn store? Just what types of bags do they use at porn stores anyway? Dave, you dummy !!! It's like saying the fish pictures on this site are "Fish Porn". That's a compliment !!! That person was saying your site is so good, it gets "feather junkies" (fly tiers) ... um ... hot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kudu 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 I think I'll order from this guy! Feather porn has to be good!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Dave, you just don't know when to quit. [snip] Barry, sure sounds like you are completely hung up on get packaging to prove that what you have is "genuine", kind of like the kids these days that wear hats with the original label still on it, just to prove what they have. If you want a premium cape, pay the premium price...oh yeah, and wait a LONG time until one become available. Seems to me that Dave has made every effort to make right on the purchase, and you have refused all reasonable responses. Heck, I'll give you what you paid for the cape if you are so very unhappy with it. Just PM me if interested.[/quot Actually I have many suppliers in the past Correct a problem by sending a replacement before the defective item has been returned. In case you haven't noticed the Xhinese have many fake products around , including watches, jeans, tools etc. nearly all follow the pattern of not having the correct packaging. This guys wants to keep arguing until he is proven right. If you read my previous posts you will see that I accepted a unmarked Cree Cape for a premium price because there was no other available . Bloody Hell, there's more important issues than this thread. I'll just buy from the Fly Shop here in Redding in the future Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 I think I'll order from this guy! Feather porn has to be good!! XD I'm dying over here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihang10 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 This is full-on bizarro Tuesday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 This guys wants to keep arguing until he is proven right. Actually, I think he was proven "right" before he actually responded to the thread. There are many more positive responses, here and elsewhere, than there are negative ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Dave, you just don't know when to quit. [snip] Barry, sure sounds like you are completely hung up on get packaging to prove that what you have is "genuine", kind of like the kids these days that wear hats with the original label still on it, just to prove what they have. If you want a premium cape, pay the premium price...oh yeah, and wait a LONG time until one become available. Seems to me that Dave has made every effort to make right on the purchase, and you have refused all reasonable responses. Heck, I'll give you what you paid for the cape if you are so very unhappy with it. Just PM me if interested.[/quot Actually I have many suppliers in the past Correct a problem by sending a replacement before the defective item has been returned. In case you haven't noticed the Xhinese have many fake products around , including watches, jeans, tools etc. nearly all follow the pattern of not having the correct packaging. This guys wants to keep arguing until he is proven right. If you read my previous posts you will see that I accepted a unmarked Cree Cape for a premium price because there was no other available . Bloody Hell, there's more important issues than this thread. I'll just buy from the Fly Shop here in Redding in the future Once again, what happened to you being done with this thread?! For being done you sure are replying a lot!!! Hahahahahaha XD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites