djd3mon 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 This is my 3rd try at tying one of those beautiful salmon flies. I am slowly but surely getting the hang of this. Mine is on the left. I ordered the one on the right from ebay for a model. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted September 30, 2015 The most important thing in tying traditional salmon flies is following the proportions that have been developed for over a century. Your fly and your model are not proportioned properly. Here is a link to a salmonfly anatomy chart. It will provide a guide to where the materials begin and end. http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/anatomies/salmonfly_anat.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaFly 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 I'm no authority but I don't think I have ever seen a salmon fly with palmered hackle. But then like I say I may be wrong. Either way I think it's pretty. Tied on a size 10 or 12 it would be a good bluegill fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
add147 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 The most important thing in tying traditional salmon flies is following the proportions that have been developed for over a century. Your fly and your model are not proportioned properly. Here is a link to a salmonfly anatomy chart. It will provide a guide to where the materials begin and end. http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/anatomies/salmonfly_anat.htm Holy cow TroutBum those sure seem awfully hard to tie. I admire those who can tie them I am no where close to tying something of that quality. djd3mon, You tied a lot better than I would have tied on something like that! There has been a few traditional salmon fly swaps in the past but I am to intimidated to try something like that. Hats off to you... eide has timed some of these and he is the one you should be picking his brain! LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 your fly is ok but you didnt follow the tying sequence or use the same hook as the fly you bought as a guide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 google salmon flies and youll find lots of them with palmered hackle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1hook 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 Good work, we are naturally a little harder to impress than non fly tiers would be! Davie mcphail ties some salmon flies and for youtube videos he is a great instructor although don't be surprised if it's not as easy as he makes look! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCFetter 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 Don't forget to check out the tutorial section of the Classic and Artistic Salmon Fly section of the forum. http://www.classicflytying.com/index.php?showforum=12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 I don't tie that type of fly, so all I can go on is what I've seen from other tiers. Other than the length of the hackle (too long), I think you did a pretty good job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RexW 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 I think you did a good job for your third attempt. Your married wings look good and if this is only your third time to try this style of wing then they look amazing. That style of wing is not easy to do. You've picked a really complicated fly to start with. There are a lot of steps required in this pattern. My suggestion for the next attempt would be to take out the yellow hackle and replace it with a wire rib just to simplify the pattern while you are learning. Your goal with a wire rib will be to make 5 evenly spaced wraps along the body (also the tinsel underbody should be smooth). Next focus on the body of the fly and where materials are positioned on the example fly. Such as, the ostridge herl should be located between the tip of the hook and the barb with the tail feather tied in at this point. Note how short the silver tag is on the example fly. Good luck! You're off to a good start and a couple of minor tweets will make a significant difference in how the finished product looks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeAddict 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 You have received some great advice. I'm certainly no expert but it looks quite nice regardless. With some of the tips given, you will be well on your way to tying some stellar flies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 1, 2015 http://www.flytyingforum.com/pattern4196.html The link will take you to a Sir Richard that I tied and illustrates a correctly proportioned fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike West 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 No where near top of line..keep trying......like others have mentioned the prepositions aren't right .... and the heads suck basically. Just honest criticism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 1, 2015 I'm no authority but I don't think I have ever seen a salmon fly with palmered hackle. Not true, most salmon flies have plamered hackle, most of which is folded. My suggestion for the next attempt would be to take out the yellow hackle and replace it with a wire rib. Wire is never used on traditional salmonflies. Flat or oval tinsel in either gold or silver are the most common. ...the ostridge herl should be located between the tip of the hook and the barb with the tail feather tied in at this point. Again, not true. The Tag begins directly over the point of the barb with 3 to 4 turns of fine oval tinsel. Then the silk floss extends from the tinsel to directly over the hook point. Then the butt, either ostrich or wool dubbing begins. Do a search of my screen name in the fly pattern data base for some examples of what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 This is my 3rd try at tying one of those beautiful salmon flies. I am slowly but surely getting the hang of this. Mine is on the left. I ordered the one on the right from ebay for a model. "...like others have mentioned the prepositions aren't right ...." I am no grammar expert, but I think his use of prepositions is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites