bigfoot 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 Couldn't you achieve the same results with two cat hair brushes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 yup and a whole lot cheaper or even wool cards https://www.google.com/search?q=wool+roving+brush&biw=1280&bih=728&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMI58S89dWpyAIVwqA-Ch3g5AhC#tbm=isch&q=wool+card Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artimus001 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 http://www.caddisflyshop.com/blend-your-own-dubbing-kit.html yes, you could use two cat brushes, or a mason jar full of water, or a coffee grinder, or your fingers in a pinch. $99.95 for this product, is for a fool with money. Hareline's beading mats was one thing. this idea totally takes the cake. talk about capitalism and consumerism gone wild. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick2011 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 some people dont have the creative mind for tool building, or they just like the fancy work.lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 I agree with everybody thanks for all of the tips. I like the wool cards ideal they will work better than cat brushes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dochollowfish 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 please excuse my ignorance, but what are wool cards? thanks, dochollow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 I have wool cards. They are used to prepare shorn and clean wool for spinning yarn. The wool is carded so the fibers are lined up into "rovings" which are then spun with a spinning wheel into yarn. I bought my wool cards for dubbing. You can mix different yarns to get dubbing. http://www.wikihow.com/Card-Wool Royce Dam of Wisconsin won the Buz Buszek Fly Tying Award from the FFF in 1994. It is the Federation’s highest fly tying award. http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Portals/0/FlyTyingGroup/FTGDocuments/Buszek/1994_RoyceDam.pdf Royce wrote The Practical Fly Tier in 2002. Once of Royce’s special techniques is tying with carded wool. So I bought as set of wool carders. http://globalflyfisher.com/reviews/books/the-practical-fly-tier Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene L 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Wool cards are used to "card" wool, or straighten and separate the fibers for spinning or weaving. Used to be called a "hackle." (Which I learned is used for hemp and jute.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Yes, it's a lot of money and I won't be buying this kit anytime soon. But there are wool cards selling anywhere from $30 to $60 a pair and you get maybe $30 worth of dubbing with the kit. So is it really that big of a rip-off? Fly tying suppliers are not the only ones charging these kinds of prices: http://www.woolery.com/store/pc/Hand-Carding-Kit-Deluxe-p10785.htm#.VhK3DflViko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 For $60.00, you can buy enough dubbing from http://www.flytyersdungeon.com/ to last about ten years (unless you are a professional tier). And they have dubbing that you're not going to get from you average sweater or dubbing mixes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicrider 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 But, but, I really like my beading mat from Hareline. I spend money on anything I think will help me in tying but there dubbing kit ain't one of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 The expensive part is the long carding block. These are well made and won't fall apart. I have been in the "mass dubbing" blending trade for long enough to know that quality is expensive. Sure two cat brushes will do the trick, but they will break down after time. I personally don't use the Hareline kit because I bought carding mats from a wool carding company, and they were much more expensive than the hareline kit. Also... This is the very best way to blend dubbing that is longer than .5". Blenders, coffee grinders, air, etc etc is no match for a soft 2" fiber. You will ruin a lot of machines trying to get the consistency that you will get with a good carding setup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 do the wool cards cut the fibers or just blend the fibers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artimus001 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 do the wool cards cut the fibers or just blend the fibers? blend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artimus001 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Also... This is the very best way to blend dubbing that is longer than .5". Blenders, coffee grinders, air, etc etc is no match for a soft 2" fiber. You will ruin a lot of machines trying to get the consistency that you will get with a good carding setup. agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites