m_grieb 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2016 Hello again, Im looking into tying some renditions of muddlers and don't have calf tail. I was thinking that instead of getting calf tail, I might as well use a substitute. What are some materials you guys have used for the wing in muddlers? im not necessarily looking for a substitute that behaves the same way, but rather something that can take its place and still work/look good/etc. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2016 I use squirrel tail or badger for the hair portion of the wing on standard Muddlers. I've also used Black-Bear hair. Of course there's always marabou Muddlers and zonker strip Muddlers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2016 Hello again, Im looking into tying some renditions of muddlers and don't have calf tail. I was thinking that instead of getting calf tail, I might as well use a substitute. What are some materials you guys have used for the wing in muddlers? im not necessarily looking for a substitute that behaves the same way, but rather something that can take its place and still work/look good/etc. Thanks You could probably use bucktail, or squirrel tail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank G. Swarner III 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2016 bucktail and squirrel tail as already mentioned. Couple of other options: Arctic fox moose caribou synthetic craft fur or something similar like Gliss n Glint or EP fibers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phg 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2016 Heck, you could use a bit of yarn, combed out, or flashaboo.... Any stranded material. Just pick a color and texture you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2016 I was just petting my beagle and noticed how close to calf tail her fur is lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m_grieb 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 What about alternative body materials? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 For the head you could use deer hair, elk hair, antelope, moose, sculpen wool, dubbing just use your imagination there's no tying police, get creative! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m_grieb 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 Oh i have no lack of imagination when it comes to things like this lol. I was just curious as to what others have had success with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 If you'll excuse me I have to go tie some beagle wing, sculpen wool muddler minnows for tomorrow! Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave G. 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 I mostly use Real Red Squirrel ( in other words not grey squirrel died red) in my Muddlers for fishing up north, that and dark mottled turkey vs tan or medium or barred. now and then for around home I use Grey squirrel. for salt I've used olive bucktail in my Montauk Minnows which nothing more than a glorified Muddler. Now and then I do use yellow calves tail, for some reason in the fall up north salmon will fall for them, I think it's that there are a lot of yellowish hoppers around in late Aug and into Sept. just a guess though. But yeah, my main general tie of Muddlers uses Red Squirrel for that inner wing and also often for the tag as well.. Speaking of the tag, ever fish a muddler with no tag ? They aren't very productive I've found and if your tags are made from two Turkey pieces and fishing is hot, you're gonna lose the tag eventually ( turkey is only so tough), thus my little search for other materials and I thought why not the inner wing material. IE Red Squirrel, Grey etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 muddler minnow arent they tied with wing quill slips? don gapen original muddler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 My initial thought too Flytire. Thought the calf tail variant came about as an easier alternative although your original there is definitely a hair wing. I like squirrel in mine as I have lots of it and its stiff enough to keep some form and not just fold over the body when wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 Yes, all the ones that I have seen have some type of hair wing and turkey slips Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corney 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2016 Geez it's been awhile since I tied a Muddler and I couldn't remember using calf tail in any variation I did. Appreciate the clarification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites