Cold 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2016 I was given a gift certificate from one of my sons for Christmas. I bought a Clear Cure light and thin and thick Clear Cure in the syringe. I did not read the report. I like the light. The thick tends to stay tacky unless I give it a lot of time. I've heard that some will throw a coat of SHAN or CCG Hydro on top of the thick to cover up the tackiness. I've used SilverCreek's resin for a few years now with no complaints...though to be fair, I haven't used many other resins for comparison. Based on the piece in the link, I may give Loon a try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank G. Swarner III 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2016 You guys/gals do realize that some of the people that do these "uv resin" shootouts/tests have affiliations with one or more of companies involved....right? I'm sure that would NEVER sway the final results....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troutslayer101 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2016 Thanks guys. I did look at the reviews and I'm going to give the Solarez UV resin a try. I will let you know how I like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2016 You guys/gals do realize that some of the people that do these "uv resin" shootouts/tests have affiliations with one or more of companies involved....right? I'm sure that would NEVER sway the final results....... To be fair, they do pretty clearly mention this in their piece. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2016 You guys/gals do realize that some of the people that do these "uv resin" shootouts/tests have affiliations with one or more of companies involved....right? I'm sure that would NEVER sway the final results....... If you look at Cheech's methods and results, you'll see that there was no bias or prejudices involved. In fact, his testing procedures were very basic and the results are easily seen. Frank, I'd think you'd know better than to disparage people without knowing WHO you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrLogik 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2016 I started with Solarez and also got some from Silvercreek. Both are good. Both don't leave the finish sticky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pabrookie94 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2016 X2 with cheech being very open and clear about his testing. He did a very good job at being unbiased. I too use loon products. I found the CCG syringes to be terrible and that was the whole reason I switched to loon and I won't look back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Norikane 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2016 You guys/gals do realize that some of the people that do these "uv resin" shootouts/tests have affiliations with one or more of companies involved....right? I'm sure that would NEVER sway the final results....... Frank's warning is fair for sponsored, promotional content that are really ads in disguise. But Cheech's post is not a one-sided promotional ad. Cheech leads off by saying all of resins are very good and later advises buying any powerful light. He was not pushing his Loon brands. Cheech did a ton of work and spent his money doing this test and writing it up. He did all of us a big favor to publish the test results, along with the test procedure, not just his conclusions or opinions. He will probably never recover his time and money from his margins on sales of Loon through his site. I hope he benefits from traffic to his site due to this excellent report. If anyone thinks there's a discrepancy, they can bring it up here or in blog comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slapwater 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2016 I like the Solarez Thin quite a bit. It covers 90% of my needs and it cures tack free and is cheap. The little tubes it comes in are terrible. You can get used to them but they are still not an ideal way to apply the stuff. I'd spend the money and get the 2oz bottle with the applicator tip. It's not as good as the applicator tips that come with the Loon stuff but it is way cheaper, less than half the price for similar sized bottles. I haven't tried it but the Loon tips may fit on the Solarez bottle. The thick is nice every once in a while but is harder to work with for me and doesn't cure tack free. The flex hasn't been particularly useful for my needs. A bottle of Solarez thin and a bottle of Loon flow are about all I need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fpeachm 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 I use solarez. Find myself using the "thin" preparation most since it's easiest to spread around a tie-off point on a fly. My understanding is all UV glue products are pretty much the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 I'm not sure why the tackiness bothers anybody. A quick wipe with an alcohol pad takes care of that. Most times I don't bother since the tackiness really doesn't stick to anything. Is it possible that everybody is using different lights made for different products or cheaper lights from China. In other words are you using a loon light to cure CCG resin or what ever other combos you can come up with. It's my understanding that different resins have different light wavelength requirements for curing. Meaning the light for loon may not be optimum for CCG or solarez or whatever. I really don't find tackiness to be a problem and wonder if there are different levels of tackiness because of different light wavelengths being used to cure the resin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 I like the Solarez Thin quite a bit. It covers 90% of my needs and it cures tack free and is cheap. The little tubes it comes in are terrible. You can get used to them but they are still not an ideal way to apply the stuff. I'd spend the money and get the 2oz bottle with the applicator tip. It's not as good as the applicator tips that come with the Loon stuff but it is way cheaper, less than half the price for similar sized bottles. I haven't tried it but the Loon tips may fit on the Solarez bottle. The thick is nice every once in a while but is harder to work with for me and doesn't cure tack free. The flex hasn't been particularly useful for my needs. A bottle of Solarez thin and a bottle of Loon flow are about all I need. I agree with you on the Solarez application comment. That's the only part that I didn't really like about their stuff. Other than that it's really good stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 I'm not sure why the tackiness bothers anybody. A quick wipe with an alcohol pad takes care of that. Most times I don't bother since the tackiness really doesn't stick to anything. Is it possible that everybody is using different lights made for different products or cheaper lights from China. In other words are you using a loon light to cure CCG resin or what ever other combos you can come up with. It's my understanding that different resins have different light wavelength requirements for curing. Meaning the light for loon may not be optimum for CCG or solarez or whatever. I really don't find tackiness to be a problem and wonder if there are different levels of tackiness because of different light wavelengths being used to cure the resin. The light mumbo jumbo is all marketing BS. Even the Tuffleye "blue light" argument is not relevant. All lights I had cured ALL resins. Some just did it better than others. In fact, the Ultrafire 501-b for $15 on amazon was as good as any light on the market for any resin... If a resin cures tacky, it's the resin, not the light. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 You guys/gals do realize that some of the people that do these "uv resin" shootouts/tests have affiliations with one or more of companies involved....right? I'm sure that would NEVER sway the final results....... Frank's warning is fair for sponsored, promotional content that are really ads in disguise. But Cheech's post is not a one-sided promotional ad. Cheech leads off by saying all of resins are very good and later advises buying any powerful light. He was not pushing his Loon brands. Cheech did a ton of work and spent his money doing this test and writing it up. He did all of us a big favor to publish the test results, along with the test procedure, not just his conclusions or opinions. He will probably never recover his time and money from his margins on sales of Loon through his site. I hope he benefits from traffic to his site due to this excellent report. If anyone thinks there's a discrepancy, they can bring it up here or in blog comments. Thanks for the vote of confidence. The ambassador deals are kind of funny when you get into the industry, and there are many reasons we partner with the companies that we have chosen. Since Curtis and I started Flyfishfood we have been offered many "pro" deals, but we have only accepted the deals that we feel most confident with. With resins, We could have gone many different directions, but the products at Loon fit best for what we were doing. The guys at Loon were grateful that we did a review and were very open to the results because even if there were knocks on their products. All in all, we just wanted to do an apples to apples comparison of all the resins out there because of discussions like this. It seems like everyone gets a VERY strong opinion about how a certain brand is the best without really comparing them to all the other brands, so we did that for them. Most of the opinions are usually just based on them trying to justify a purchase (which is 100% OK due to that behavior being human nature), and the common tactic of saying "my brand is best" just because it's the brand that they happen to have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Most of the opinions are usually just based on them trying to justify a purchase (which is 100% OK due to that behavior being human nature), and the common tactic of saying "my brand is best" just because it's the brand that they happen to have. LOL More common even than this ... Very few people are willing to say, "Oh, okay ... I was wrong." The common misconception is that vehemently defending your opinion makes it right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites