HMG?

[denduke 0]

Hot melt glue....seems a craze.... Make different colors not using thread ? Anybody familiar with this around here. Where you get it how it works. They say make it on Teflon non stick stuff then apply to fly. Better google it.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwiLp-OUuubLAhXHSyYKHS_DBmcQFggkMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hmgflysystems.com%2Fabout.html&usg=AFQjCNHBvzExCWu2ot3MMdCLGlu974EnuQ

[FlaFly 0]

There are some folks who still use HMG, although far as I can tell, it was replaced by most tyers with epoxy and now UV cured resins. I used to have a link to a site that demonstrated its use but I can't find it anymore. The guy I'm talking about didn't use a glue gun... he cut a small piece of HMG and put it where he wanted it on the working fly, then used a butane lighter to warm, but not melt, the glue.

 

I tried it some time back, but it's too runny and easy to mess up. HMG does come in a variety of colors, which is a plus, but I don't know how that guy that you posted gets his to be transparent/translucent. All the flies I ever saw were opaque. Here's a pic of one I tried my hand at.

[Crackaig 0]

The site that you are thinking about may be Barry Ord Clark's site. Here is his version of your Mutantz. https://thefeatherbender.com/2012/07/24/tying-mutantz/ If it isn't the site it is certainly the technique you mention. He also does a rather nice hot melt glue caddis pupa.

 

Cheers,

C.

[mikechell 0]

Or this guy ...

 

http://www.hmgflysystems.com/

[FlaFly 0]

I think it was thefeatherbender.com

[vicrider 0]

It is known to many on different sites I have to spring for whatever's new and better within reasonable costs. Well, I had to have the HMG system in mikechell's post and I have had it for over a year now. One of these days I'm going to take it out of packaging and see how it works. I expected a small glue gun type system pushing glue out to the hook but it is just a small soldering iron he uses and explains why it is so much better than the glue gun. I do know he sure makes some pretty flies.

[flytire 0]

how it works

 

 

[Tom Gibbons 0]

Very worthy fly, I learned another skill. Thanks.

[denduke 0]

Looks like the tiny pointed soldering iron is the key here...where u get one all radio shacks outa business?

[flytire 0]

google soldering irons

[FlaFly 0]

Somewhere I read about the wattage of glue guns and soldering irons. I think they were recommending using lower wattage so the iron wouldn't get so hot. But I can't remember who said what, and where, and why. I would guess that a high wattage iron would be so hot that the glue wouldn't be transferrable. Anyone have any idea?

[TheCream 0]

I think the flies look really good...what I struggle with conceptually are the HMG dry flies, like this:

 

http://www.hmgflysystems.com/hmg-sulfur-dun.html

 

What exactly floats this? Am I wrong in assuming hot melt glue sinks?

[denduke 0]

30 watts no trigger....I'll bet I can sharpen it with grinder/ polisher. Not the best point. now where is the glue. Transparent would be nice

[FlaFly 0]

denduke..... try looking into wood burning sets. Mine has an assortment of tips and one is a point. it's 20 watts.

 

Cream..... I'm betting that body and tail are made of foam, and coated with HMG on the head to make it shiny.

 

I've never used my ant yet, so I don't know how sturdy HMG is as compared with epoxy or UV resin.

[Poopdeck 0]

I think the flies look really good...what I struggle with conceptually are the HMG dry flies, like this:

 

http://www.hmgflysystems.com/hmg-sulfur-dun.html

 

What exactly floats this? Am I wrong in assuming hot melt glue sinks?

 

I assumed hot glue would sink as well. But.......... I filled up a pot with water and threw a stick of elmers hot glue in it and it floated like a cork. Who knew. That's enough science for me.