Weighted Drunk & Disorderly Streamer

[cj_dubya 0]

Just curious if anybody here has ever tied a weighted version of Tommy Lynch's D&D pattern? I've been contemplating adding a 7/8 weight rod with sink tip line to my arsenal solely for fishing streamers (mainly unweighted patterns), but for the past couple years have fished floating lines with weighted streamers in my home waters and done well. I realize adding weight, whether it be through dumbbell eyes or lead wire might alter the intended action of the streamer a bit, but just curious if any of you have experimented with this and had any success?

[deerhairdan 0]

yea you can weight the heads. ive used tungsten beads on the hook tied at the mid-point of the bent portion of the hook and tied the deer hair around/on top of it. Its difficult to shape correctly with beads, so you can use lead wire...but it needs to be alot to really effect anything. Its hard enough shaping the head correctly to swim properly without weight....when you add weight to the head it just adds that much more difficulty to the pattern. IMO its not worth the frustration. Just use a sinking line as the original pattern was designed for and save yourself a few hours of frustration. They also sell plastic fly lips you can tie directly on a hook shank for a crank bait style action if that is what you are after.....

[ihang10 0]

Tie a few and try would be my best advice I fish a weightEd circus peanut at 7-10 feet in water moving 2400+ CFS and a heavy fly and sinking line is your only hope to get down to the fish.

 

Fast water or are you just looking to change the action of the fly?

[whatfly 0]

Of course you can add weight, just like any other pattern. Question is what are you trying to achieve. You have identified already what the two means of getting down are. Sometimes you can use one or the other, sometimes as ihang10 points out, you need both.

[cj_dubya 0]

Yeah, I guess I'm not really trying to change the action that much (although like I said, adding weight there probably isn't much way around it).. the D&D has been a proven successful pattern, a lot of which is probably attributed to the unique action. I was just curious as to if anybody has had any luck fishing a weighed version. Streamer fishing is hands down becoming my favorite method of fly fishing so I'm often out in higher flows/stained water, which is why a heavier rod with a sinking line is pretty much inevitable for me sooner or later. Thanks for the input guys!

[ihang10 0]

Maybe a conehead vs dumbbell eyes?

[thinkingredneck 0]

I only use weight for 3 reasons: to get a fly deeper, to impart a jigging action, and to knock myself in back of the head. I usually try to remove buoyancy before adding weight. At some point a fly rod should be put down and gear used, from an expediency perspective. Especially when dealing with depth and strong current. That point is different at different times, but I find myself taking along a bait caster with the fly rod. Sometimes I try to remember why I use a sinking line.

[cheech 0]

yea you can weight the heads. ive used tungsten beads on the hook tied at the mid-point of the bent portion of the hook and tied the deer hair around/on top of it. Its difficult to shape correctly with beads, so you can use lead wire...but it needs to be alot to really effect anything. Its hard enough shaping the head correctly to swim properly without weight....when you add weight to the head it just adds that much more difficulty to the pattern. IMO its not worth the frustration. Just use a sinking line as the original pattern was designed for and save yourself a few hours of frustration. They also sell plastic fly lips you can tie directly on a hook shank for a crank bait style action if that is what you are after.....

This.