zip 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 Morning Ya'lll! I'm not normally one for bad reviews,but this has driven me nuts! I'm a long time customer of J. Stockard.Needed a new bobbin and purchased through said website. It was the short one with the thumb grip. Got it in the mail,loaded it,started tying...thread popped.I thought "well hell,maybe I just need to get used to it".So I reload and what do ya know... repeat!At this point I am getting aggravated.I start to inspect the tip where I see a bur INSIDE the shaft!I wrote an email and they sent another.I got all excited and then...you guessed it...the thread frayed then popped!!!!!Another Bur! Same shape,size and thorn in my foot!I have given up on thier tools. Not hating on the company by any means. But those bobbins are horrible. Figured I'd shout it out and maybe save a few of yall a pain in the butt! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 The only ceramic bobbin I ever used did the same thing to me. Somehow it came with the tiniest chip on the edge of the tube. I went through your same stages of grief. I never bought another ceramic one, as the regular ones work just fine for me and I could get two for the proce of a ceramic one. I guess I have been like not to encounter burs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moshup 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 What is the name of said bobbin? Is it a house brand ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zip 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 House brand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 Do you have a link to the catalog page with that bobbin, so we can avoid it? I'll assume that other bobbins don't have the same issue! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 I have used them all and I keep going back to the good old Griffin Supreme ceramic tip. It might cost more than a house brand, but I have found them to be even more reliable than even Rite or Stonfo bobbins. This being said, I'm patiently awaiting my bobbins from Loon outdoors... Those have the potential to become my new favorite. In tools, you can go mega cheap on most things, but I highly recommend getting a high quality bobbin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rstaight 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 Had a fly tying buddy suggest tying a deer hair bug using Kevlar thread in this situation. The Kevlar will "Deburr" the inside of the tube. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicrider 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 I have a pile of bobbins and have had a few over the years that came with a built in thread cutter. Really shows up when you're winding the head with repetitive wraps without giving line. I am really thinking about a re-winding bobbin but the cost is just so dang high and I use too many different threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 Had a fly tying buddy suggest tying a deer hair bug using Kevlar thread in this situation. The Kevlar will "Deburr" the inside of the tube. It might "burr" other parts too. Best to just go with Ceramic. Also... FWIW... Kevlar thread is slowly dying with all of the GSP threads out there. 200D GSP thread is unmatched for big bulky deer hair flies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryon Anderson 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 I bought "cheap" ($10 ea.) ceramic-tube bobbins from Cabelas and had the same problem with them as that described by OP. The only bobbins I use now are the original S&M bobbins (the one on the top in the photo; the one on the bottom is a later version offered by Wasatch Tools) -- hard to find but hard to beat. I don't even break 16/0 with them, and I like the way they nestle in the palm while tying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 I bought "cheap" ($10 ea.) ceramic-tube bobbins from Cabelas and had the same problem with them as that described by OP. The only bobbins I use now are the original S&M bobbins (the one on the top in the photo; the one on the bottom is a later version offered by Wasatch Tools) -- hard to find but hard to beat. I don't even break 16/0 with them, and I like the way they nestle in the palm while tying. I have some of those S&M bobbins and I'm not a fan. You must have gotten some good tubes because all mine are good at is storing wire (Both the originals, and the Wasatch ones.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishingbobnelson 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 I had the same problem,but the replacement works great. I suggest you email Kate, I'm sure they will make it right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TedderX 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 Is ceramic really necessary? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2016 No. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TedderX 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2016 What does the ceramic do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites