Byron 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2017 When I wrap two hackles, I "wiggle" the second hackle while wrapping to avoid the issue. If I use two hackles of the same size, they usually come out the same length.......based on visual inspection....have not measured closely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrLogik 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2017 I met Fran on a few occasions in his shop. I watched him tie a dozen flies or more also. That was about 10 years ago when we used to go vacation in the Adirondacks. I can tell you that he tied his flies to catch fish, period. They weren't glamorous. They were scruffy and really buggy looking; however, on the stream those scruffy buggy flies were a trout magnet. As a matter of fact, after my first visit with him and I showed some of my fishing buddies the Ausable Wulffs I got from him they all laughed. Seriously, they all laughed at the flies saying they were ugly, why would a fish take that, etc. Once they did a bit of research to find out who this Fran Betters guy is their tune changed. Pretty funny. I don't think he put too much thought into hackle length. He had a pile of pre-selected materials spread out in front of him when he sat down to tie. He had a pile of hackles he had selected from a neck, swatches of fur, a pile of hooks, etc. He could literally be looking and talking to you while he was tying the fly. Darndest thing. I know I can't do that. His main thing was to make the fly look and act like a bug on the water. I think we read too much into flies in general. Yeah, I also want my flies to look good but catchability is still more important in my book than looks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byron 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2017 When I use two hackles on a fly, first, I "wiggle" the second hackle through the first to help find its way to a bare location, and if I have chosen two hackles with equal length barbules, The completed fly sure looks to have equal length hackle tips. I find that there is room for two hackle stems to fit behind and in front of the wings. Just my observations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites