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Have read some people use dubbing wax on the wire,

other head cement to help hold the material while spinning.

Any other ideas? Thanks

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For a day or two, I was interested in dubbing brushes. (The feeling quickly passed)

During that time, I was looking at YouTube videos for making them.

 

NONE of the videos show people putting anything on the wire.

 

I DO use dubbing loops a lot on my flies. Putting the material in the thread loop, I don't use anything on there, either. Never seem to have any problems with materials falling out.

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I do know a couple people that use dubbing wax but I've not really found it necessary. I would not suggest head cement. I would think that would result in a matted brush. I've found the trick really is making sure you have a stable enough setup so the wire holds the materials well when you start spinning the wire.

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I use brushes quite a bit. Depending on the material(s) in the brush, I may or may not use wax. If I am making a more complex brush with multiple materials, I am more likely to wax the wire.

 

Mike, here's when dubbing brushes make sense (to me): doing lots of flies that require dubbing loops in a single sitting. My most productive streamer this year I tie with a body of Ice Dub, either in a brush or dubbing loop. Do I notice a difference in the durability, fishability, or appearance of loop vs brush? No. The difference is in speed. I can do a dubbing brush on my table large enough to tie several of this pattern in just a few minutes. It's really fast. Then, when I go to tie a half dozen of them, I tie in the brush, wrap and go. No creating dubbing loops, no prepping the material. I'm absolutely not a speed tyer, but I saw the difference in tying a half dozen of these in maybe half an hour vs 45 minutes, that caught my attention. The brush is very basic, very fast, very efficient.

 

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Cream,

I understand the purpose and ease of dubbing brushes. But the reasons I dropped the idea was this:

The largest fly I tie is on a size 4 hook. And I don't tie many of those.

For size 8 through 12, I figured the wire in a brush would add noticable weight.

 

Am I mistaken in these?

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I have used the turbo dubbing block for years, but now I don't commercial tie I rarely use it. Wire was slippery so I used head cement. Now a days I am back to dubbing loops and do not need anything other that the thread I use.

ron

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Yeah, I'm with Bimini, have you tried either of those techniques yet? It might be helpful to know why you ask.

 

Personally, I use wax for particularly slippery materials in dubbing loops when tying at the vise, but not when using a dubbing block because I have better control on a flat surface. Quite useful at the vise for some materials.

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Cream,

I understand the purpose and ease of dubbing brushes. But the reasons I dropped the idea was this:

The largest fly I tie is on a size 4 hook. And I don't tie many of those.

For size 8 through 12, I figured the wire in a brush would add noticable weight.

 

Am I mistaken in these?

 

It depends on the wire. If you used a really heavy wire I could see that adding a touch of weight, but I use this stuff in the Medium size and it's extremely light: http://store.flyfishfood.com/UNI-Dubbing-Brush-Wire-p/dbw.htm

 

Brushes definitely don't "fit" with every fly pattern but, when they do, they make life a lot easier. I built my brush table for essentially under $15. Scrap wood was used that we already had in my dad's workshop at the time was primarily used, I just had to buy a set of roller blade bearings to provide the smooth spinning "hub" on the spinning end. I don't use brushes for all of my streamers, but when I do...crap that sounds like a Dos Equis commercial. Stay tying, my friends.

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I don't use anything on the wire when I make brushes. I do find that if I turn the knob slowly for several turns the materials do not move.

Have not tried many slippery materials to make brushes.

 

Rick

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