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Time for Secret Santa Christmas Swap Planning

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Cut off for sign up is Nov. 17th to have flies here by Nov. 24th.

Welcome to the Secret Santa Swap 2018! The object of this swap is that you send me your flies (amount stated below) and I photograph them and randomly send them to your secret swapper, trying to match fishing preferences. The secret swapper does not know until they open them, who they are from. There may be Secret Santa prize's that are randomly given away to the swappers that have their flies to me on time! There are a few changes from last year's swaps to try to make things more equitable for tiers and receivers and easier for me.
I will need either a PM or email from each participant including your name, address, AND I would like each participant to give their preference of category or type they would prefer their flies in and I will try to match these as much as possible.
The deadline for this swap will be November. 25th. Flies to be here by that time. Foreign shores anticipate your mailing time to make deadline. When I receive your information I will add you to the swapper’s list. If you would like to join in and you are sure you can make the deadline that the flies have to make it to me by the due date, reply with I'M IN and pm or email me your information! THERE IS NO POST REQUIREMENT TO JOIN THIS SWAP.

I am going to make a big change from last year that will help me keep things organized. I want all boxes sent in able to fit in 6" x 9" or 9" x 11" envelopes. I will provide the 6" x 9" or 9x11 bubble mailers on my end. Santa can't afford 30 or hopefully more postages from the North Pole so please include return postage to your addy , stamps, cash or paypal to my account but DO NOT send a return envelope.

Flies will be due by 11-24-17 (Due by 11-24-17, not shipped by 11-24-17.), so they can be photographed, gift wrapped and be on their way to their secret swapper's before Christmas.

These are the categories to send in. Pick one! The Guidelines are Minimum gift packages.

1) 12 of your favorite freshwater flies...These can be 12 different flies or 4 sets of 3. The crossover between panfish, trout, shad, skipjack etc. is such these flies should pretty much fit into one group.

2) 6 saltwater or large freshwater geared flies. i.e. crabs, intruders, articulated. Specify in general what flies are geared toward. These can be articulated flies, bass flies, etc. but generally more intense in size and effort than category 1. Cork, foam and balsa poppers would fit this category.

3) 3 stacked deer hair bugs. Normally considered bass bugs but skating mouse is a known big trout system. Some members have done beautiful deer hair bugs that are works of art and some hang on my tie bench too nice to fish IMO.

Members WILL put their flies in a flybox and send them. It makes it nicer for the person getting your flies. The flybox should be a nice box like you would use appropiate to fit your flies. Remember that the fly box is part of the gift and nice boxes can be had for reasonable cost if you shop a bit. No Altoids tins on this one.
You are NOT limited to listed amount of flies. I CANNOT always balance the amounts of flies and box when cross matching the swappers and secret santas so sending in several extra is great but cannot guarantee getting back anything except minimums.

You decide what you think someone would like to receive, tie them up and send them in. No limit to the amount of swappers.
Thank You, Vicrider
Nick Szabo
PO Box 361
Cheyenne OK 73628
[email protected]

Yes, there have been a few changes in this swap and I hope to make it fun, equitable, and get each person flies geared toward their preference as much as possible. Let's have fun and the sooner I get all the flies the nicer they'll be packaged and returned. Once back to receivers I expect them to sit UNMOLESTED under tree until Christmas morning.rolleyes.gif I promise to keep better track of where your flies go and be able to give that info if no one responds to your flies.

There is no limit to how many can participate in this swap. Considering it's Christmas, the more the merrier.
You may send in boxes in more than one category or more than one box in a category. You will get a return gift for each box sent.

Notes based on last year's questions...
1. Yes, my email is paypal connected for postage

2. To clarify a point, I'm going to try again on this since I've had a couple of questions on it.
Let's say you're in for a panfish swap. Now, let's say you don't know 12 panfish flies you can tie comfortably and send in. Okay, no one (most anyway), wants a dozen identical Bluegill Bullies. If you're only comfortable with a few different patterns fine. Just mix them up so you have no more than 3 of any single pattern so the person will have some variety in his box. This could be as simple as 4 sets of 3 different patterns, 4 sets of 3 similar but different color or weight or size patterns, or 2 sets of 3 patterns and 6 different patterns. Not trying to confuse anyone here, just trying to make it clear that this is not the swap where we try to tie 12 identical patterns.

3. Since it was brought up by someone, I will include the Santa's surprise for at least one lucky member drawn at random. This will consist of some flies sent as extras by generous souls and maybe a few tying materials I have in surplus. At least one special surprise, maybe more.


1...L'il Dave.....................under the tree


3...Sandan.....................under the tree

4...stabgnid....................under the tree

5...r2732.........................under the tree

6...Rick Ziegler...............under the tree

7...Dubs..........................under the tree

8...Caloosa Bug..............under the tree

9...Will.............................under the tree

10.Mike West..................under the tree

11.wmw4.........................under the tree

12.woodlegs....................under the tree

13.CamoCladWarrior......under the tree

14.JoshPilon08...............under the tree

15.Breambuster..............under the tree

16.SmokinGuns..............under the tree

17.dogfacedoc................under the tree

18.Old Hat......................under the tree

19.Mainard.....................under the tree

20.FishingBobNelson.....under the tree


22.Vicente......................under the tree




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A dozen flies suitable for a knock-around day in New England. Flies for freestone streams and small warm water ponds in a box that will fit in a shirt pocket. Coming right up. I'm thinking 2 each of 6 patterns.

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I"ll jump in again. Certainly enjoyed it last year. Not sure which category yet. I'm leaning toward the 6 large freshwater patterns with a couple deer hair bugs included.

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Would Steelhead & Salmon fit in somewhere ?? If it doesn't no problem just asking ..


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Screw it Im in.

Ive been thinking about this all day. My life is just hectic right now, Im in between job locations and selling a house plus Im so broke right now I cant afford to pay attention


But I can come up with $20 for a box and shipping and actually not have to tie as I have so many unused flies on hand.


Last year was great!

Thank you for hosting again.


Ill be tying warm water stuff, Bream to Stripers.

Id like the same back....also open to SW Gulf Coast stuff.

PM sent

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Sounds great. Already got some good cross swaps I see in there. Just adding this so anyone PM'ing or looking for response on here server is so slow right now I just can't wait it out on every post. Hopefully things will pick up. Will start listing swappers sometime tomorrow on first post.

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