salmobytes 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 This is a rare fly. I haven't seen another. There are a lot of Al Troth shadow boxes that have been sold at TU auctions. Al and his son Erik made a lot of them, in Al's Garage in Dillon MT. There may be a few that include this fly but I haven't seen it yet. This is Al's version of the Ed Hewitt Neversink Skater. Mostly deer hair for the hackle with a twist of Guinea Fowl up front. Tied on a #8 salmon hook. The hackle diameter is 2-1/2" inches. This was for night fishing on the Beaverhead River in Montana. Cool fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lesg 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 As a kid I had one of these tied by my Great Grandfather but i think it was from the backyard chicken coop. It was about 1 1/2 " in dia. if I remember correctly but it has disappeared somewhere in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 Is the deer hair put in a loop or spun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salmobytes 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 Loop or spun? I think spun but I'm not certain. I have to give the fly back to its owner tomorrow. I'll look tonight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 Odd that you post that fly today. Last night I was going through the e-book links posted by flytire and noahguide and came across that pattern, though without the feather, only deer hair. In the recipes I read, It is indeed spun deer hair, two clumps opposing each other. I have heard of Hewitt's Neversink Skater, and tied a few up this past Spring, but they have never made it off my desk. The use of only deer intrigued me. I will try to find the references again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 I found it quicker than I expected. It was in Popular Fly Patterns by Terry Hellekson He calls it a Deer Hair Spider, and suggests tying it with a tail of elk hair. He goes on to mention Hewitts Skater Spider the Troth Hair Spider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBPatt 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 Theres a fly called the Skitterbug, attributed to Dick Stewart back in 1975, thats pretty much the same as Al Troths. I tied this one up in an SBS a few years ago; unfortunately the photos are no longer available, just this blurry one I really like the guinea on the front of the OPs version; kind of a Jingler. Regards, Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salmobytes 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2019 I miss Dick Stewart. He was one of the good ones. His son (can't remember his name) ended up being a full time computer nerd I think. Somewhat like myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lesg 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2019 A bit of investigation has shown that the fly from my Great Grandfather was a Neversink skater tied completely with hackle not with deer hair. Different fly same concept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites