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Just for the record in my experience the more messed up the hair on a woolly bugger the better the fish like em.  That said you don't cut the tails though, you tie in the marabou fibers with just a loose couple of turns of thread then pull the feather forward through the thread towards the hook eye till they are the length you want them, tie it down tight. Your chenille should already be just tied in but not wrapped till the tail feather is in good and tight.  There are several videos out there on youtube explaining the steps to tying a bugger.

Blue Gill will like smaller messed up looking buggers. They also like woolly worms. These are both tried and true patterns, some folks just sort of hang right there tying these in many colors and configurations but especially the bugger, ribbed , non ribbed, weighted, non weighted, eyes, no eyes, even dumb bell eyes. Beads no beads. S0o tie on !!

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7 hours ago, [email protected] said:

As for drawing the fly first its been too long time ago i cant even come close to drawing like i did back then.

Maybe "diagram" is a better word to use than "drawing". It would probably take less than 1 or 2 minutes to make one.  Someone explained to me that I should keep a notebook of the "recipes" for the flies I tie, and there are several good reasons for doing so (which I won't go into here).  I have fallen out of practice in doing it, but am going to fall back into the practice. The notebook would be a good place to put the diagram, and the name of the fly, the date, notes of any special details, etc.  It will serve to remind you later of some details you will forget (like possibly the type and/or size of the hook you used).

Bill

 

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15 hours ago, [email protected] said:

Ok bil_729 , to me it s like o can draw it. I used to draw alot llke outdoor scenes and fish. But if i draw it first my fly probably will be worse then my drawing. Lol.  I just did my first wooly bugger, the hairs are a mess! Lol.

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Try fishing it. It looks "buggy".

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take a class.  it will save you a lot of time.  However, focus on the pinch wrap, even spacing, with wraps of feathers or wire. the finish knot or whip finish.  Learn to use the hook as a ruler for proportions.  Hang in there.  It is a lot of fun.

 

You tube is great, most of the time.  Look at thr limp cobra website, too, as well as Flytier's site.

 

Wooly worm, Stillwater nymph, Clouser minnow, bucktail streamers.

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Since I had a ton of woolly buggers already, I started with the Elk Hair Caddis.  There's plenty of options for the body of the fly (hackle, dubbing) so I've gotten better in those areas.  

Most importantly I found is the "less-is-more" principle when it comes to materials.

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On 8/8/2020 at 8:49 PM, SilverCreek said:

Most beginners start with wooly buggers.

You get two sizes of beads, six sizes of hooks, six spools of veevus thread, copper wire, gold wire, silver gold mylar tinsel, yellow floss, pearl krystal flash, sparkle emerger yarn, parapost wing, Mcfly foam, three colors of chenille, a half Hare’s mask, five colors of dubbing, rubber legs, elk hair, comparadun hair, rabbit strips, crosscut rabbit strips, marabou feathers turkey tail feathers, keough saddle feathers and grizzly saddle feathers, tailing feathers for dry flies, saddle feathers, ringneck pheasant feathers, partridge soft hackle feathers, a half grizzly cape suitable for tying wings and all sizes of wet fly collar hackles, peacock herl, two colors of bucktail hair, Loon water based cement, and a Hareline drink coaster, all contained in a useful plastic box.

 

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After reading the list, I purchased one from Amazon.  Thank you for listing everything out.  

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My first pattern and still favorite is the Wooly bugger like most people are replying. I don't  think it is the easiest but really has you practicing some strong foundation work for later flies you may want to try. With so many colors and materials to try it really makes for an excellent pattern. I have been tying for 8 months and wanted to add this new video if you are interested.

The youtube link is: https://youtu.be/xcyVlN96nHIspacer.png

 

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On 12/26/2020 at 10:39 PM, DarrellP said:

Look at thr limp cobra website,

beware of which limp cobra website you visit!

it is now a porn website

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We teach our Project Healing Waters participants using a thread midge first. Learning thread control and a whip finish applies to every fly after that. Buggers are what I tied first though, they have principles that are universal as well. 

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