[email protected] 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Hello, I am going to tie a few royal Wulff flies. I was wondering about the calfs hair, what could I substitute it with i have the deer tail white hair, is there another substitute i can tie with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSMcDougald 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 White calf body hair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Z-lon or Poly, not traditional but..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene L 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 I like kip for Wulff wings. Calf body hair is almost universally recommended as first choice, but the stuff I get is too short. It's finer (I think) than Kip, but still...I don't think whitetail tail will work because it's too coarse, but Wulff probably used it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redietz 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gene L said: I don't think whitetail tail will work because it's too coarse, but Wulff probably used it. He certainly used it for the Gray Wulff and the Grizzzly Wullf, and it's still used for those flies. The Royal Wullf isn't actually one of Wulff's patterns; it was Dan Bailey's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 You can find calf body hair that is long enough to tie at least an #8 Wulff but you half to shop in person or buy from a shop that will select it for you. As Sandan mentioned synthetics will produce good results and are easy to work with but not traditional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Hair from a snowshoe foot is a good substitute also, if you have it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene L 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 A hair wing is what makes a Wulff a Wulff. If a synthetic is used, it ain't a Wulff, regardless of how well it works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 white bucktail will be a good substitute i used bucktail for the wing on this gray wulff the fish dont care if you use natural or synthetic materials Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philly 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 I don't tie them that often. Last time I did I used snowshoe rabbit since I didn't have any calf tail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, HighMountainTieFlyer said: Yeah I always use poly wing just because it’s cheap let's see one or a couple Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upstate 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2020 I just tied about 20 and used calf tail. I had some calf body hair but found it harder to work with than tail in my opinion. I wanted to stay with a natural material. Try whatever you want and see what you like the best. As was said before the fish don't care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Upstate said: I just tied about 20 and used calf tail. I had some calf body hair but found it harder to work with than tail in my opinion. I wanted to stay with a natural material. Try whatever you want and see what you like the best. As was said before the fish don't care. Both are pretty slippery IMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upstate 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sandan said: Both are pretty slippery IMHO. You are correct. I found the calf tail to be a little more fore giving. here’s a question - I found trying to get consistent wing sizes harder than actually working with wing material. Anyone have any tips? Other than just more experience/practice, don’t worry to much about it the fish don’t care. It’s really just there to help you see the fly better right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2020 equal bunches of wings may help in the castability of the fly. wont be off balanced comb the calf tail prior to inserting into hair stacker. it separates the hair fibers for easier stacking white calf tail is easier to see in certain light conditions and also provides a silhouette of mayfly wings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites