Connor 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2021 Hi, I purchased a few pheasant rump patches to tie some octopus patterns for lough trout here in ireland. However i will never get through all those feathers. I was hoping someone could give me some examples of other (uk) patterns that they could used for? Thank you very much. Kindest regards, Connor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2021 Mrs. Simpson, some nice crawdad patterns, and Jack Gartside's Sparrow pattern are 3 that immediately come to mind. Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2021 The Tabou Caddis Emerger is an excellent pattern the uses the Whiting Brahma saddle feathers. You can use the aftershaft feather from a Pheasant body feathers. Check at the base of those church window feathers for the downy aftershaft "philoplume" feather at the base. Use the philoplume in the place of the Chickabou feather to tie the Tabou caddis emerger. https://globalflyfisher.com/patterns-tie-better/the-tabou-caddis-emerger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, SilverCreek said: Use the philoplume in the place of the Chickabou feather to tie the Tabou caddis emerger. Nice tip, thanks. @Conner, not sure what a UK pattern is, but I second Kimba's suggested patterns. Jack Gartside, the creator of the 'Sparrow' pattern, was a big fan of using pheasant for tying. Although he passed away about 10 years ago, his website is still available with a good amount of info on/patterns using pheasant feathers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2021 you can use pheasant rump feathers in any patterns you want to tie use them as substitutes for soft hackles, wing cases, tails, legs, streamer/wet fly wings, bodies etc henshaws old faithful carey special gimp nymph mrs simpson type "flies using pheasant rump feathers" into your favorie search engine. youll find a bunch of flies be creative, experiment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikemac1 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2021 The Carey Special Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connor 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2021 Thank you all for the suggestions. I have never seen nor heard tell of a mrs simpson or caddis emerger. I will give them a try! I thought they may be too stiff/similar to cock hackle with not enough movement to be used as substitute soft hackle, but I will also give that a try. Apologies, what i meant by uk patterns was along the lines of bumbles, dabblers, mayflies sedges etc. I have seen some patterns used in USA and Canada but I am unsure how well they would work for wild fish in mountain lakes here in ireland/Scotland. For example i have never seen anyone use a mrs simpson or even seen it in any tackle shops. Maybe I have les a sheltered life Thanks again I appreciate any the advice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
umik1953 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2021 Claretbumbler.com has a sooty bumble that uses pheasant rump for the head hackle https://claretbumbler.com/tag/bibio-pattern/ And on this forum sbpatt uses pheasant rump in about 17 of his loch/lough style patterns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2021 The Mrs. Simpson was developed on the North island of New Zealand and was part of a "series"/style of tying called the Killer style of fly. It was so enticing to the fish that it was named the Mrs. Simpson - for Wallis Simpson, the twice divorced woman that caused King Edward VIII to abdicate his throne because of his love for her. If you like the Killer style check this site out - Feathered Lures (fishingmag.co.nz). We call feathered lures streamers. If you look near the upper right hand side you can click on dries, nymphs, and wet flies for those patterns as well - many are effective patterns for US waters as well. Hope this helps. Kim BTW, here's a very nice tying video for the Mrs. Simpson (and basically all Killer-style flies) - The Mrs Simpson, An Adventures In Fly Tying Video From Fly Fish Ohio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connor 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, WWKimba said: The Mrs. Simpson was developed on the North island of New Zealand and was part of a "series"/style of tying called the Killer style of fly. It was so enticing to the fish that it was named the Mrs. Simpson - for Wallis Simpson, the twice divorced woman that caused King Edward VIII to abdicate his throne because of his love for her. If you like the Killer style check this site out - Feathered Lures (fishingmag.co.nz). We call feathered lures streamers. If you look near the upper right hand side you can click on dries, nymphs, and wet flies for those patterns as well - many are effective patterns for US waters as well. Hope this helps. Kim BTW, here's a very nice tying video for the Mrs. Simpson (and basically all Killer-style flies) - The Mrs Simpson, An Adventures In Fly Tying Video From Fly Fish Ohio Thank you very much @WWKimba for the explanation and links. I will 100% give it a go and give it a throw when I am next out in the water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2021 👍👍 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2021 Pheasant rump makes great long nymph legs when wrapped. Carey special Floating Dragonfly Nymph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David 82nd 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2021 Those are nice feathers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2021 Speaking of Jack Gartside, this is one of my favorite hopper patterns. There are grasshoppers in the UK right? Gartside Pheasant hopper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites